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Chairman: Vote was not legal

Bryce Reeves, the chairman of the Spotsylvania Republican Committee, provided supporting documentation yesterday to show how the Herb Lux-VRE issue developed:

 

Reeves said: This whole thing was stemming from Vince Onorato wanting to pass a resolution on VRE from November of 2008.  I am attaching a memo addressing that issue as well as the resolution that was approved by the Resolution Committee and subsequent unanimously voted on by the committee that addresses the role of the Spotsylvania County Republican Committee.  The role of the Spotsylvania County Republican Committee is very simple.  To find, train, and support Republican candidates for office and support the ideals of the Republican creed.  

Here is a letter Reeves sent to former supervisor Vince Onorato:

On Friday 11/21/2008 at 9:43 PM Mr. Onorato sent a resolution to me as Chairman of the Spotsylvania County Republican Committee, requesting adoption of the resolution by vote of the Committee. The resolution presented was forwarded to the Resolution Committee for review and findings. Discussion followed and while the Resolutions Committee decided that Mr. Onorato’s resolution had merit, it was unanimous that the resolution would not stand as written, thereby effectively nullifying the resolution in committee.

Mr. Onorato’s resolution did however bring to light some very important and lively discussion on what role the Republican Committee should play in different issues within the County. Conversations were started about resolving to stand on the Republican Creed and support candidates, legislation, and organizations that adhere to the spirit of the Creed itself.

Reduce spending, decrease taxes, and less government interference have served us well. Not adhering to one of those principals allows us to become unbalanced as we have seen in the last few years. We must really be careful with what we allow others to say what we stand for. I believe it is vitally important to start this work on a resolution to define what this Committee stands for and believes and Mr. Onorato’s resolution has spurred that conversation to happen. I look forward to having open dialog and lively discussion about relevant issues you all deem important to the Spotsylvania County Republican Committee in the coming months.

I would also like to thank Mr. Onorato for bringing the resolution before the Resolution Committee. It has been a pleasure to serve as your Chairman over the last year and look forward to serving with you in the coming months as we approach the 2009 elections. I would like to leave you with the Republican Creed as "food for thought" about who we are and how we would like to be defined.

 

Another member who was present when Herb Lux made the VRE motion said this:

There were three reasons the vote Herb mentioned was invalidated:

1. A quorum of the Committee was not present.

2. No formal mechanism exists for the Committee to pass "resolutions".

3. There were people who voted who were not members of the Committee, and no debate was offered on said "resolution"

So, if the local GOP is trying to become a more accepting party, how do they rectify this situation? Mr. Lux refuses to vote for any Republicans now. Others are a bit annoyed with his actions and some support Mr. Lux. But how does the chairman bring this issue to peace and get the party to accept all people, even Mr. Lux, and convince him to vote for local Republicans? I guess we will find out. 

 

 

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  • livngnva

    if you want to bring the GOP party together in Spotsylvania County. I am not a member of the GOP party but if I were I would see Mr. Lux as a slow poison that will eat at the party within and in the publics eye.

  • lgross

    indicative of the larger Republican Party where (depending on
    your point of view) – the folks from the farther right of the party
    have insisted on more “purity” of principles as a condition of
    membership?

    But if these guys cannot agree among themselves on how to
    govern their own group.. wouldn’t that give most of the rest of
    us some serious pause about them ending up with a majority
    on the BOS?

    I think it’s amusing. The hard core of the R’s claims that they
    have lost elections recently because they have strayed from
    their principles but others (and I admit to being one) think
    they lost because they have been so intolerant of most views
    other than the harder right and/or unable to agree among
    themselves on a more diverse and inclusive platform.

    All I know is that I think there is a difference between
    governing and “ruling” and the harder right folks strike me as
    adherents of the idea that getting elected means you have
    been elected to rule – not govern.

    The only way they win is to convince enough of he folks in the
    middle to vote for them – and give them credit.. they are
    capable of that. The folks in the middle unfortunately are
    often suckers for sound-bite ideas and advertising…

    there basic strategy, in fact, seems to be to get all of their
    “base” out at elections and then convince enough of the non-
    base “heathens” to vote for them…

    that’s a pretty cynical assessment – no?

    but is it wrong?

  • mycomfort

    Anyone or organization associated with Mr. Lux will never ever get my support. Any politician associated with him will never get my vote. You are who you surround yourself with….

  • hlux

    The fact is the vote was legal.

    1. A quorum of the Committee was not present. False. There was a quorum and there is a list of the members present. Section D of the Bylaws of the Republican Party of Spotsylvania County requires a minimum of 15 voting members. The minutes from the June 2009 meeting show 28.

    2. No formal mechanism exists for the Committee to pass “resolutions”. False. The mechanism is the Committee membership.

    3. There were people who voted who were not members of the Committee, and no debate was offered on said resolution.

    Fact. The vote was 14 – 2. (See June minutes) We can provide affidavits by members present who voted on the resolution that in fact was a legitimate vote. Further, to be an illegal vote it would require that at least 12 that voted for it were not members. The records show this to be false. If Mr. Reeves is claiming that there were some that voted that were counted that were not members he is saying our Secretary was derelict in her duties. This would be false as the Secretary sits with the membership list in front of her and knows who the members are. As far as debate Mr. Reeves was conducting the meeting and unless he is claiming he was derelict in his duties there was opportunity for debate. However, members are not required to debate an issue unless they choose to debate it. In this case the vote was overwhelmingly in support of the resolution, which passed.

    The GOP is an accepting party. The problem with the Party is that it has failed to live up to the product it has been advertising to the public. The Virginia Republican Party Creed states
    We Believe:
    That the free enterprise system is the most productive supplier of human needs and economic justice,

    That all individuals are entitled to equal rights, justice, and opportunities and should assume their responsibilities as citizens in a free society,

    That fiscal responsibility and budgetary restraints must be exercised at all levels of government,

    That the Federal Government must preserve individual liberty by observing Constitutional limitations,

    That peace is best preserved through a strong national defense,

    That faith in God, as recognized by our Founding Fathers is essential to the moral fiber of the Nation.

    Most people will agree with the Creed. The problem is the Party has not held those claiming to be republicans accountable to the Creed or their Oath of Office to uphold the Constitution.

    The American people have buyer’s remorse for a product that has continually failed to perform. If you went to the store to buy a product and you took it home and it failed to perform you would take it back. You would probably get apologies and be convinced to try it again. However if you got it home again and it failed to perform you would take it back and not get it again.

    That’ what the Republican Party has done to itself.

    I want to see that changed. I want the public to be able to have trust in the Party but that will only come when the Party supports only those that adhere to the principles they claim and the Oath of Office to protect our God given rights, nothing more nothing less.

    In fact in a Poll conducted June 25, of the Spotsylvania Republican Committee of whether we should support someone for office who fails to adhere to their Oath of Office, 100% said we should not.

    In another poll conducted the same evening on whether we should support someone who failed to adhere to the Republican Creed, 91.5% said we should not.

    So as far as how do they rectify this situation, stand on principle. I will vote and will work tirelessly for those who will adhere to their sworn Oath of Office.

    It would seem clear by the Polls taken of the Spotsylvania Committee, they feel the same.

  • hlux

    In talking to hundreds and hundreds of people they agree that public officials should be held to adhere to their Oath of Office. This is not a question of “purity” it is a matter of trust.

    To know and understand the Constitution is to appreciate our Constitutional Republic and how it protects the individual right against the will of the majority. (Mob Rule or a simple democracy)

    One of the problems that we face is the fact that the public has been deceived, to think we live in a democracy. There is a big difference.

    Knowing and understanding a few principles will unite the American people. Our Constitution is Party less.

    1. We first must decide where our rights come from. It can only be one of 2 sources. We are either born with them or they are given to us by men. If by men they can be taken away. The Declaration of Independence recognizes that we are born with them. We are endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable rights that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. (Which would you prefer?)

    2. To secure these rights governments are instituted among men. That is the sole purpose of government, to protect our rights, not to take them away.

    3. Just powers come from the consent of the governed. What is important to understand here is the fact that as individuals we can not delegate to someone else authority we do not posses. For example; can you legally force your neighbor to pay for your health care, no? So how could anyone think they could hire someone else, in this case Congress to force your neighbor to pay for your health care.

    As most will agree, as Citizens we have limited authority, therefore the only legitimate government is a limited government.

    I agree that those that have been elected think they are rulers instead of our servants. However, that is our fault because we have failed to hold them accountable to their sworn Oath of Office. Therefore, they feel they can do whatever they want because they think they know better.

    I think the American people are finally saying enough is enough. The solution to the problems that continue to plague us from issue to issue is to only support Statesmen for office that will give their very life to adhere to their oath of office to protect and preserve our God given rights. Principles matter, our Constitution is based on a fixed standard of right and wrong based on Gods Law. That does not change. Men change like the wind. So where do you feel our rights come from? This is the first principle that everyone needs to come to terms with. For without a firm foundation nothing will stand for long.

  • hlux

    It’s clear you don’t know me.

    If you did, you would know that I will give my life to protect and defend our freedoms, of which we have been so richly blessed, as recognized by our Constitution, which includes yours.

  • hlux

    Unfortunately Bryce is giving false and misleading information. Read further info on the blog.