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Small dog attacked by pit bull on Saturday has died

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Maggie, a 13-year-old shih tzu, was killed on March 8, 2014.

Maggie, a 13-year-old shih tzu, was killed on March 8, 2014.

BY PAMELA GOULD / THE FREE LANCE–STAR

A small dog attacked by a pit bull in the Leavells Crossing neighborhood on Saturday has died, making it the second dog in less than two months killed in a dog attack in Spotsylvania County.

Amy Clark said her 17-year-old daughter was walking their 13-year-old shih tzu through the neighborhood shortly before 4 p.m. on Saturday when a pit bull ran from the front porch of its home in the 5500 block of Leavells Crossing Drive and attacked the dog.

Clark said her dog, which weighed 10 pounds and was named Maggie, died shortly after being taken to an emergency veterinary clinic.

The pit bull was surrendered to Spotsylvania animal control deputies and has been euthanized, said Spotsylvania Sheriff’s Capt. William Tydings, who oversees the animal control division.

He said deputies were still investigating the incident on Monday.

The latest attack occurred one day after a Spotsylvania General District Court judge declared another pit bull a dangerous dog. That dog had killed a 10-pound Maltese on Jan. 12 as its owner walked it through the Lancaster Gate neighborhood.

That pit bull’s owner was fined $50 on a misdemeanor charge of failing to keep the dog on her property, but was allowed to reclaim it and take it home.

Tydings said his staff investigates several dog attacks on other animals in a year but he couldn’t recall any attacks on people since the death of 82-year-old Dorothy Sullivan in 2005.

“For some reason, right now we’re getting more dangerous dog cases than usual,” he said. He said it was a coincidence that the two cases came so close together.

He also said that attacks by pit bulls are no more common than from any other breed and at one point a dachshund in Spotsylvania was on the Virginia Dangerous Dog Registry.

A pit bull is not a registered breed but a generic term used to describe dogs with similar physical characteristics, including a solid build, medium size and short hair. A pit bull is considered one of several breeds, including the Staffordshire bull terrier, American pit bull terrier, American Staffordshire terrier and the bull terrier, or a mix of terrier breeds.

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Previously, I’ve spoken to experts who provided safety tips for taking walks in the neighborhood.

 

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  • Theresa Marie Slusher

    I am so sick of pitt bull this pit bull that . They are not bad dogs its all on how the owner trains them. #PittbullLover #DontBullyMyBreed

    • Richard Tater

      The rest of the world is sick of irresponsible pit owners who make excuses while their dogs kill other peoples pets. Don’t worry, I won’t bully your breed, but I will ventilate the first one that comes at me.

      • separationcs

        Preach on, Tater!

      • Yotie

        Like!? I love that comment!

      • Action

        And I’m sick of you people worrying about dogs when this country is going to hell. We have much bigger issues that dogs getting killed. I can’t even believe it made the newspaper. Get a grip and get a life. They are just dogs.

        • John1258

          Do you worry about it when pit bulls kill people? Or is that not something to worry about either?

          • Action

            Not at all. A strange dog should never be allowed closer than the range of a bullet. There is no need to clutter the courts with this BS.

          • Ghastly

            Thank you!

        • Richard Tater

          The FLS gets paid by the DNC to run stories like this to deflect attention away from Obamacare, Benghazi, Putin and Obama’s misuse of the IRS and NSA. The next article will be on how climate change turns certain dog breeds dangerous.

          • Ghastly

            I guess they must not have gotten paid enough since they are in the throes of bankruptcy.

        • VegGal

          Yeah one of the biggest problems this country has is heartless idiots like yourself.

          • Action

            Oh eat some meat Veggy…

    • adv1sor

      So, is it only pit bull owners that are so irresponsible that they let their dogs run loose to attack and kill? I don’t see any other types of dogs accused of this behavior.

      • ed newell

        How hard you looking?

        • adv1sor

          I wansn’t looking for this story, or the other recent one about the same type of incident. What we need are very large and increasing fines for irresponsible owners. They may not care about their dogs but I bet they care about their wallets.

          • ed newell

            I know of quite a few dog on dig fatal attacks. Only some of em seem to make the papers.
            Some images scare folks. Pit bulls black teenagers or guns. The fears are often more indicative of the issues the fearful have than anything else.

      • Joanna McGinn

        that’s because most normal dog owners value their dogs… because there are so many surplus Pits, they are easily replaced why bother…. they have the lowest rate of vaccination compliance of any breed…

    • Kristie-Anne Butler

      Theresa you are so right. My brother breeds, shows and rescues. Not only can a pitbull kill an animal what about the other breeds that kill. You don’t hear about them only the pit bulls. I am so sick of it always being a pit bull. Irresponsible pet owners need to control their animals. I personally see all kind of breeds without leashes running crazy in neighbor hoods. My neighbor was bitten by a yappy little terrior do you hear about that.

      • adv1sor

        Why do you think we don’t hear about other breeds running loose and attacking and killing other smaller pets?

        • Kristie-Anne Butler

          Because the pitbulls are the name of evil in this world. That is why. What about the german shepards, rotties, and other pets labeled? Now it is the pit bulls turns to get all the bad things but think about several years back it was the rotties with the bad rap

          • separationcs

            Bad Rap. That is just a brand to you sociopaths. Your false equivalencies are played out. We are on to you all. Those dogs will be destroyed.

          • Ghastly

            I would rather see every last pit bull sterilized.

          • Karen

            That’s much kinder than what I would like to see.

          • Yotie

            If you can stomach it there is a video of two put bulls pulling the leg off of another dog. No other dog could do that.

          • Yoka124

            No other dog would want to do that.

          • Debbie Bell

            That video should be shown at every pit bull awareness day.

          • John1258

            Its the pit bulls ‘turn’… because they kill the most people. Pit bulls kill more people than german shepards, rotties, and other pets. Are you overlooking that fact?

          • Kristie-Anne Butler

            No John I am not over looking that. But what I am saying is as of right now not enough people are educated on the breed or temperments of the dogs. A lot of back yard breeders dont try to breed for temperment they breed for the money and are not educated with the correct knowledge it takes to raise and handle a dog like that. BTW my dogs are strafford terriors not “pit bulls”

          • Debbie Bell

            Good pits kill dogs. Read any book from before the propaganda began. No book gives instruction on how to train a pit to kill dogs because no training is necessary. The books explain that you just watch your pit and when he suddenly begins to focus on other dogs, you just let him fight.

            Colby, pit breeder, fancier / fighter, author wrote “Inasmuch as dog fighting is illegal… as long as these dogs are bred, there will be pit contests to prove who owns the better fighting dog.”

            Thanks to pit bully people , dog fighting continues and grows!

          • Karen

            ROTFL! Good one!

          • Ghastly

            BTW, while we are on the subject of education and knowledge….the term is “terriers” not “terriors”.

          • Karen

            I think the word is “Terrors” – Pit Bull Terrors.

          • Ghastly

            Thank you! No doubt poor Mrs. Sullivan was terrified.

          • Debbie Bell

            Do not compare pits to GSD s and Dobermans. Even when these other dogs were popular and plentiful, they never maimed/killed pets/people in the ways and numbers that pits are now. That’s because these other breeds were not so intentionally mutated to kill dogs, as good pits were. Since pits were so changed, no other species is safe when instinct to maul takes over.

            Pits are different. That’s how over 30 ADULT pit owners were killed in a decade. No other dog comes close. For example no Keeshond no setter has ever killed a human.

          • Kristie-Anne Butler

            Do you research and read on the ten deadliest dogs they are listed on there as well as pit bulls. So honey yes there have been attacks by then as well. and there has been fatal to humans and to other pets. So yes honey it does happen just doesn’t make the news like it did 5 to six years ago. As far as fighting dogs we dont fight ours. The owners are the ignorant ones that are equiped to handle such a dog. Not every singe pit is to blame, look at the owners first.

          • Ghastly

            Statistics do not support your statement. Give us some solid facts from a reliable source.

        • Action

          Because it’s not news. It’s a freakin dog.

          • s c 1420

            Action – you are a very ignorant person. You have no business posting anything. Sounds like you need to be put away somewhere. Go get some help before you harm someone.

          • Action

            s c 1420 – you are an even more ignorant person for replying to my posts.

      • separationcs

        Was your neighbor eviscerated by the yappy terrier? No. Did it break into their house to maul them? No. Did it maul them to death and then continue to maul them long after they were dead? No. stfu

        • Kristie-Anne Butler

          You know any dog breed can attack anyone no my neighbor was stitched with 40 stitches and chased on her porch. And by the way you need to watch how you speak to people on her with you abbreviations.

          • separationcs

            Maybe you should stop trying to equivocate rat dogs to those man-eating monsters. Champions or not. It makes you look silly and we are sick of the same garbage coming out of the mouths of these beasts’ supporters. Your blatant disregard of human and other animal safety warrants cursing at this point. If acronyms offend you, get a load of a child’s face torn off by your favorite breed.

          • Longfelloo

            I would just like to give you an analogy. Pit Bull is to Canine as Lion is to Feline. Would you like a lion roaming around your neighborhood? Of course not; it might eat your beloved Pit Bull. The only Pit Bull I want to see in my neighborhood is the Latin Hip Hop performer, Pitbull.

            Let me list my experiences for my stance against Pit Bulls (and Rottweilers, to be fair to those who say only Pit Bulls are discriminated against):
            I have witnessed a roommate’s Bullmastiff (I am aware that there is an argument that they are not related to Pit Bulls, but I think they have a genetic link) attack a neighbor’s small puppy. I have a friend whose five year old son had his ear bit off by a “friendly” Pit Bull at the neighborhood park. I was bit on the hand by a “friendly” Doberman Pinscher when I was 12 while the owner was holding him and telling me it was OK. Oh, I have also been bit on the hand by numerous puppies…No, I don’t think puppies who are doing instinctive playing need to be put down. My point is that a bite from a puppy is not much different than the injury that can be inflicted by a small dog. Stitches and a shot would be typical treatment; not calling the local funeral parlor or vet to have your pet cremated.

            Regarding the argument that it’s not the dog, it’s the owner: If owners cannot be in control of the dog, then it’s better to outlaw the most dangerous breeds. There are plenty of other big dog breeds that won’t attack to the point of death. How about a nice lab / golden retriever?

          • Yotie

            In this scenario, I should be allowed to own a lion. Lions aren’t dangerous, the owners are. If you flinch when my lion charges you you’re racist.

            It’s the small Calicos that frighten me.

          • John1258

            You are correct.. any dog breed can attack. The difference is, when Jack Russell attacks you need a band-aid… when a pit bull attacks, you need an ambulance (or a mortician)

          • Yoka124

            It’s also true that while any dog can attack, normal dogs don’t want to. It’s these pit types (and other ‘molossers’) that were specifically created to attack without reason, just for the fun of mauling.

          • Debbie Bell

            Good pits do not give warning before attacking. This traits helped/help them win dog fights. Why give warning when the goal of a good pit is the mauling?

            Normal dogs have strong self preservation instincts. Good pits have none. Kick an attacking border collie, he yelps and retreats. Beat a good mauling pit unconscious and she still will not let go of the child’s broken arm.

            It is never the dog’s fault but it is the fault of pit breeders ,pit buyers, all the pit bully people that these most handicapped dogs are infesting our communities where they disproportionately both cause suffering and death and also suffer and die as well.

            Tragically the current bully people are no different than those who fight dogs.They justify dog suffering and death for their personal pleasure… Their ability to own the (mutant )dog of their choice. Proof is their refusal to offer or accept any breed specific ways to reduce this breed specific crisis.

          • Ghastly

            I agree that there is no need for ugly language. A few days ago someone commented that the media and insurance companies were picking on pit bulls. WHY? Why would they? What do they have to gain? The numbers don’t lie…..it’s that simple.

      • John1258

        You always hear about pit bulls because they are the breed that kills the most people.

        • thatindividual

          not rocket science is it.

      • Joanna McGinn

        “SHOWS” rescues????… not at a ‘sanctioned show’… and rescues should NEVER EVER be bred as you have absolutely NO idea of what their genetic background is… and if it came from an underground dog fighting breeding ring… you have no idea what health issues your passing on. You are too stupid to think about the harm you and your brother are doing… pumping out puppies when an average 17,000 a week are euthanized. SHAME ON YOU> YOU are a major part of the PB problem, not the solution. AND being bitten by a yappy little TERRIER (correct spelling) or Chihuahua is nothing that can’t be handled by a swipe of iodine. Pit Bull attacks go to the ER… or the morgue.

        • Mary Olson

          PICTURED: The two-year-old girl who had her eyelid bitten off in savage attack by West Highland Terrier
          http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2019863/Icy-Thomas-Day-2-eyelid-bitten-savage-dog-attack.html
          —————————————————
          Toddler needs 50 stitches and nearly loses an eye after being savaged by family terrier

          Lilly Llewellyn, 16 months, was savaged by Cairn terrier Smokey, described by breeders as ‘the best little pal in the world’, after she accidentally stepped on his tail.

          The eight-year-old pet sank its teeth into Lilly’s face and tossed her around in the attack which nearly cost her an eye.

          http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1321999/Toddler-nearly-loses-eye-mauled-family-terrier.html

          • thatindividual

            an anomaly. find us thirty people and a mountain of pets that have been killed by westies in the last year and a half and I will ask for BSL on them too. but you won’t find it.

        • Kristie-Anne Butler

          We dont breed the rescues they are spaded or nuetered and placed in loving homes after they are sent through handiling and training classes and the potiental adopter is proved with education course on the breeds. If a rescue is not fit for adoption then we do what is right for the dog that will not fit into society as a functional pet. I understand completely how “dangerous” the breed is what damage they can cause. The other thing we DONT pump out puppies we have breed a couple of our dogs. As I stated there are several that are therapy dogs that are tested have passed the tests and been deemed for this procedure. I am by far the problem I am educated on the breed. As for show they are all grand champs, have citizen awards, and yes one has been number one of this coast. It is truely the uninformed owners that have the lack for respect on other ones. I truely understand when a dog is vicious that they should be destroyed but I blame the owners more than anything. If people took time to really research a breed any breed of animal and be fully informed less of these instances would occur. I am damn sure not ignorant the facts of the breed. But i am also not ignorant to the owners that dont research and see a pup and think oh ok let me play rough with them or not have them in any type of training, handling or education classes. I damn sure am not defending the careless owners in this fact. There are leash laws everywhere. Our dogs have leashes on everywhere they go. We are responsible in what we do with our dogs. Some dogs are taught to attack or put into dog fighting rings. But they are put their by their owners not by what they want. It is how the dog is handled and the education that is implemented when you commit to owning any type of breed of dog. Attached is a website that lists other dogs that you should be concerned about. http://listverse.com/2012/05/04/top-10-deceptively-dangerous-dog-breeds/

          • Karen

            You’re a breeder yet you just referred to a dog as “spaded”? Clearly an educated breeder of the highest caliber!

          • Kristie-Anne Butler

            The rescued animals are spayed excuse that i used wrong word. I miss wrote one work I am a breeder of high caliber or I wouldn’t have the pups that I have thank you

          • Karen

            I’m just going to take a wild guess here (I HOPE), English is not your first language. If it isn’t, I completely understand how challenging it is to learn another language and kudos to you for doing so. If, on the other hand, English is your native tongue, for the love of god, please invest in a good dictionary and grammar book! Either way, we have enough backyard breeders of all breeds; please stop contributing to this pit bull infestation.

          • Ghastly

            Thank you, Karen! If this is “an educated breeder” I would hate to see the terminology an uneducated breeder would use!

          • Ghastly

            Sorry, but you “miss wrote” more than one word. For “an educated breeder” you don’t seem to be familiar with the correct canine terminology.

          • Karen

            Or the English language in general! Her writing definitely suggests it is not her first language.

      • Debbie Bell

        Pits are different. That’s why all North American fighters ALL use pits.
        This attack was good pit behavior.

        Pit mongers/bully people have an astounding ability to not have empathy for others. That can be termed sociopathic.

        Imagine if it was common to kill pits the way good pits kill other dogs?

        You’re walking your leashed pit bull on a public sidewalk at 4pm and someone rushes down off their porch then repeatedly stabs fatal holes into your dog using a pitchfork.

        Oh they do get s $50 fine but they get to keep their pitchfork. Pit Bully people: that’s how normal compassionate people feel when we learn of these attacks.

        Now that dog fighting is illegal, it’s time to make breeding fighting dogs illegal too.

      • Ghastly

        Yappy little dogs do indeed bite but they are far less capable of doing the kind of damage that a pit bull can. The statistics on pit bulls speak for themselves.

    • Yotie

      Yeah? Why are people okay with Mickey the pit bull ripping a kid’s face off? I guess he was trained to eat kids.

    • lizjimbo

      Let us see what you mean…Spotsylvania County prosecuted the only known dog attack in the region. I happen to know the person that was prosecuted. No big surprise! What kind of dog was it…hmmmmm…a Yorkie…no…a German Shepherd…no….hmmmm…oh that’s right it was a pit bull that killed an elderly lady…hmmmm…but it was a good dog of course. The owner got 3 years in prison because she let her dogs run free. It is your freedom that will be taken when your pit bull takes a human life…unless it is your life of course in which case I don’t care. One less pit bull and one less irresponsible pit owner. Math works for me!

      • Yotie

        Dorothy Sullivan. Remember her name. She was eaten by her neighbors pit bulls.

      • Ghastly

        The owner also had previous convictions. “If” I recall correctly one was for leaving the scene of an accident and another for sex with a 12 year-old boy. She needed to go away for awhile to think about her place in society.

    • Joanna McGinn

      2012 41 humans were sacrificed to the bully dog… and FOUR of them were rescuers who were killed by the very Pit that they had raised from puppy hood. I don’t think that those loving and caring and KNOWLEDGABLE owners raised those pups to kill them at some point down the road. Last year 29 people were killed by Pits and 2/3 of those were killed by the FAMILY PET PIT, one that was loved, trained right, even in reasonable secure area… and they killed INSIDE THE HOME.. It is NOT how they are raised. It is the over 300 years of breeding for aggression and then many dumped in shelters that you have no idea on the background. But even at that. Having one in the home is like having a WWII grenade buried in your back yard in an unknown location. It may or may not go off but you will have no clue as when it will happen. Hope you have really good health insurance as well as life insurance to pay for a burial.

    • John1258

      Pit bulls are the #1 dog breed involved in fatal attacks. Are you sick of that fact?

    • AlRussell

      No dogs are inherently “bad.” The problem is with owners who get a particular breed for some kind of “cool” factor while ignoring the needs of that breed. My Shepherd herds and my retriever retrieves stuff. I’ve never taught either of them to do these things. It’s been bred into them over the course of centuries of human intervention. No one ever questions the instinctual behaviors of other breeds, but Pit owners constantly try to deny that their breed was intentionally designed to fight and kill. If you want one, great. Make sure you can control it while walking on a leash and never let it get out unattended. In fact, these are good things for all dog owners to do. The difference is that when a Chihuahua goes AWOL nobody is likely to die. For that reason and the fact that, accurate or not, Pit Bulls are viewed as dangerous, any owner of these dogs needs to be more responsible, not less.

    • Ghastly

      Insurance companies list pit bulls as the number one highest risk dog for a reason. It is not based on emotion but on statistics. It is not just a propensity to bite but their capability of inflicting serious damage.

  • Joan Mench Clark

    Thank goodness it was not a small child. I am a dog lover and this sickens me. The attacker was clearly at fault as it was not under it’s owner’s control. I don’t care what the breed. The owner should also be fined heavily, the message needs to be loud and clear. Control your pets at all times.
    .

  • Shawn Medley

    Lmao….pitt bull is a registered breed dumb ass!

    • adv1sor

      Not according the AKC.

    • Pam Russell

      The term Pit Bull is not a registered or recognized breed by the American Kennel Club association. Rather, this is a vague and subjectively used term to refer to a number of breeds. The two breeds most associated with this label are the American Pit Bull Terrier (APBT) and American Staffordshire Terrier (AmStaff). These are very distinctive breeds with different histories. Some dog experts only recognize the APBT as the true Pit Bull and many in the dog world do not use the term at all.

    • Yoka124

      The only kennel club that registers APBTs included child-killers in its foundation stock. Didn’t bother them one bit. The same child-killers were the foundation stock for the so-called American Staffordshire Terrier (which, like the APBT, is really a molosser, not a terrier at all). No kennel club will tell you this, because they are basically advertising organizations that want to sell a product.

  • Shihtzumomof2

    My heart hurts for both families.

  • Jen

    So why euthanize this one and let the other one go home?! Doesn’t seem fair! A dog that kills to kill and tastes blood will kill again. They both should have been put down. The families who lost their pets can never replace their furry family member. And to imagine the pain of the dogs that were mutilated and the owners that had to watch… It’s awful! We need to change these laws and give the owners a bigger punishment.

    • Yoka124

      We need to ban all these pit bull type dogs. They were created specifically to kill other dogs (and animals). But until we’ve banned them, I agree with you — any pit bull type that attacks another animal should be summarily put down, and the owner given some serious jail time.

    • AlRussell

      Most likely, the one euthanized had a prior history or the owners didn’t have up to date shots or a proper license. Those things factor heavily in the decision of whether or not to allow the owner to reclaim the animal. If there is no record of rabies vaccinations the only way to check is through a postmortem examination of the biter.

    • Anna Smith Stallings

      Because the owner of the euthanized PB agreed to surrender it for that purpose, the other owner did not agree to euthanize their dog.

  • Tara Jones

    Leavells Crossing has several pits-pit mixes that get loose. There are two separate homes on Cedar Ridge alone that can not keep their pits under control. You would think that animal control would do a better job, especially in neighborhoods with problem dogs.

    • John1258

      Have you called animal control every time you see them running loose? Animal control can’t do anything about the dogs…. if they don’t know about them.

      • Ghastly

        And if Animal Control does not remedy the problem call your rep on the Board of Supervisors.

    • Cindy Rakes

      Wow, I live on this street and didn’t know this and I have 2 labs which I walk seldom!

    • AlRussell

      If no one files an official report and follows through on the Court Hearing, etc… Animal Control will have no record of the dogs at all.

  • Joanna McGinn

    One case where and ‘eye-for-an-eye’ is suitable… and the owner should fork over about $2500 to buy a new one.

    • Yotie

      We are taking about pit bull owners. They run for donations all the time for every little thing because they spend their money on weed.

  • Chef David Edelstein

    Our Pit Bulls, Great Dane and Australian Shepherd only kill and eat people on Tuesdays. The rest of the week they are strict pescatarians.

    • Kris

      Even Pit Bull Rescue Central states that pits are bred for dog aggression, and that you should NEVER leave pits alone with other dogs. I learned the hard way, and many former pit owners and former pit rescuers learned the hard way as well. Pits are sweet and wonderful until they are not. One rescuer’s Pit started killing her other dogs when she was present and the spayed pit killed 3 dogs before the rescuer could stop her. This pit gotten along well with her other dogs, and had shown zero aggression until she suddenly went “pit”. Please don’t take chances or you will come home one day to a dead dog or dogs (most likely the cute terrier/heeler mix on the right). I have known people who came home to 4 dead dogs. Better to be safe than sorry.

    • Yoka124

      I feel sorry for the non-pit bull type dogs you keep. You’re risking their lives just for the sake of your vanity. Shame on you.

    • thatindividual

      All I can say is I hope you crate and rotate. :( I wish your fence was double boarded as well. The pit that attacked my dogs pushed through a fence just like that. Snapped the boards right through. Also, I am a little worried about the well being of the dog on the right as he could easily be a prey for the others. Please be careful. jmho.

      • Chef David Edelstein

        Do you also believe in broken mirrors, walking under ladders, and black cats? It never ceases to amaze me how we as the human culture have modern medicine, internet technology, satellite technology, etc… yet we still have people like you walking around living in the dark ages/ lacking any sort of intelligence.
        Frankly, Im terrified of humans like you. You bring nothing intelligent to the table and you endorse shoving one’s head in the sand and ignoring facts and reality.
        Go back to reading your tabloids and subscribing to false information.

        • thatindividual

          I haven’t a response to that, Chef, except to say, I still hope you crate and rotate, and that you will reinforce your fence. Cheers.

          • Chef David Edelstein

            As I knew you would not. You wear your ignorance on your sleeve.
            We never now, nor will we ever crate or muzzle or need to reenforce our fences. Our dogs have never bitten another dog or human, have never run at large AND… our local animal control and police dept call on us to help them with aggressive dog issues. That alone speaks volumes… but someone like yourself couldnt even begin to grasp the concept that everything youve read in the paper or watched on the 6-o-clock news about dogs, dog behavior, dog aggression and traits of specific breeds IS WRONG. Why is it wrong? Because 99% of the info was produced by NON licensed Veterinary Doctors or Behaviorists or Trainers or even dog walkers. It was produced by journaists who are more concerned with selling newspaper and grabbing ratings than providing verifiable facts.

            But you keep your head shoved in the sand where you are safest.

            By the way, Im a professional dog trainer of 24 years.

          • thatindividual

            My dogs were mauled by a pit bull. No journalist produced that event.

          • Chef David Edelstein

            Was it it Pit Bull or just some dog that attacked your dog so IT HAD TO BE A PIT BULL?
            Did you get a DNA done on the dog to ID its breed?

          • thatindividual

            it was a pit. are you telling us you don’t know pit bulls kill animals?

          • Chef David Edelstein

            you didnt answer my question:

            Did you get a DNA done on the dog to ID its breed?

          • thatindividual

            Chef, you have got to be kidding me. You must think I fell off the turnip truck yesterday.

          • ed newell

            Really? Are you a gambler? I’ll show you pics of 50 dogs. You pic the pits. I’ll give you 50 for every one you pick right you pay me 50 for every one yoy guess wrong

          • thatindividual

            lol, ed, do you have trouble identifying a west highland terrier? a scotty? a german shepherd? a collie? a beagle? a dachshund? a chow chow? a greyhound? a whippet? a chihuahua? an akita? a yorkshire terrier? a golden retriever? an irish setter? a saluki? i didn’t think so. we all know this game, and we are tired of it. aren’t you? you certainly are a gambler if you have a pit bull though. you are gambling it will never attack.

          • Chef David Edelstein

            why are you avoiding answering the question?

          • thatindividual

            why are you asking it?

          • Chef David Edelstein

            because you claim your dog was attacked by a “Pit Bull”. without an official DNA identifying the dog… your dog was just attacked by a dog and not a Pit Bull.
            Im also banking on the fact that you dont know a St Bernard from a Spaniel.

          • thatindividual

            Did Pal who played Lassie in Lassie Come Home submit DNA before he got the job? Or, maybe, Chef, he wasn’t actually a collie after all, he was maybe… just…a really furry pit bull?…;)

          • Karen

            “Responsible pit bull owner” = Oxymoron. See “Exhibit A” above!

          • Chef David Edelstein

            Yeah, Its a pisser to find out everything you believe is VERIFIABLEY wrong, isnt it?

          • Karen

            Oh please, I’ve never believed the “responsible” pit owner myth.

          • Chef David Edelstein

            Thats it? Thats the very best you can come up with? I thought we were engaged in a debate here… you with 1/4 truths and 1/4 facts and me backed by experience and the views and opinions of:
            The Obama Administration
            The American Bar Assoc
            The National Association of Animal Control Officers
            The American Veterinary Medicine Assoc
            HSUS
            AKC
            UKC
            ASPCA

          • thatindividual

            chef you make the same tired arguments. deny it is a pit bull, make up your own experts, say it’s the owner…the dead speak loudest from the grave. please crate and rotate, and reinforce your fence.

          • Chef David Edelstein

            Tired = factual… yep, Im sticking with it.
            Are you denying the existence of
            The Obama Administration
            The American Bar Assoc
            The National Association of Animal Control Officers
            The American Veterinary Medicine Assoc
            HSUS
            AKC
            UKC
            ASPCA
            and their official positions on the Pit Bull breeds and breed specific laws?

            Why is it that pit bull haters use lots of smoke and mirrors and diverting away from verifiable facts?

            Do some reading and educate yourself and then come back and debate me:
            American Temperament Test Society
            Atts.org
            National Canine Research Council
            http://www.nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/
            Humane Society of the US
            http://www.humanesociety.org/issues/breed-specific-legislation/fact_sheets/breed-specific-legislation-flaws.html#.Ux90rYWPoRY
            ASPCA
            http://www.aspca.org/about-us/aspca-policy-and-position-statements/position-statement-on-breed-specific-legislation

            Are those organizations and their official positions just made up?

          • Karen

            What do all those sources have in common? Oh yeah – they stand to make or LOSE a lot of $$$ depending on their pit bull stance. The NCRC is nothing more than a heavily funded pit bull lobbyist group. I took your advice and did some research.
            http://www.dogsbite.org/pdf/aggressive-behavior-in-adopted-dogs-that-passed-temperament-test.pdf
            http://thetruthaboutpitbulls.blogspot.com/search/label/ATTS
            http://thetruthaboutpitbulls.blogspot.com/2012/10/no-one-can-be-great-thinker-who-does.html
            http://www.dogsbite.org/pdf/pit-bulls-gary-wilkes-spring-2010-off-lead.pdf

          • Chef David Edelstein

            THANK YOU KAREN… I was waiting for one of you town idiots to enter Dogsbite into the conversation (and thetruthaboutpitbullsblog which is just a spin off of dogsbite)
            1) Dogsbite is run by Colleen Lynn who was under investigation TWICE by Seattle authorities for falsifying her testimonies as to her “alleged” pit bull attack in 2007. She also has ZERO years of experience in ANY animal related field or industry (she is a half rate web designer), and she is under a psychiatrists care/ medicated… and has been since 2000/ 2001.

            2) Dogsbite themselves claim their source of information is 100% form the media. Anyone with a single brain cell knows the media is a not a reliable source of factual information as they are not in the business to inform, rather to sell newspaper. So in fact, Dogsbite is blind as they got their info from the blind.

            Want to try again?

          • Karen

            I’m sure you realize that the above article are merely linked from DBO (although their site is a wealth of good information). The first is an article from Cornell. The second one is an article written by Gary Wilkes in “Off Lead” magazine. Dogsbite had nothing to do with either of these, other than providing a handy link. I have both without the the DBO path if that makes them more credible. Most of the historical pictures claiming to show these land sharks as “nanny dogs” are actually from Mr. Wilkes family photos. You will see several of the photos in his article, yet he makes it quite clear these are not nanny dogs. You will also note the other links are all sourced; all you need to do is hover over the statements and click and it will take you to the source. How typical to attack the messenger when you can’t agrue the message. Really, even bringing up that Colleen is under psychiatric care and on medication? WTF does that have to do with the price of tea in China? As far as her information not being factual, the Maryland Court of Appeals thought otherwise.

          • thatindividual

            The Obama administration? – oh, well there you go! Machine politics is the new normal. If I were you I would strike that from your list of credible backers. All those orgs use the same tactics, that is what they have in common. They are all cash cows, too.

          • Chef David Edelstein

            Ok, lets look at JUST the Obama Administration’s stance on Pit Bulls and BSL, shall we???

            What would be their motive? Obama is not up for re-election, the major animal welfare orgs do not have the funds to pay him to say that to further their campaign… so where does that leave us?
            Are you suggesting Barrack is running illegal dog fighting in the basement of the White House?
            Please tell me you are not a conspiracy theorist.

          • thatindividual

            “Are you suggesting Barrack is running illegal dog fighting in the basement of the White House?”
            lol, no, but that was really funny, I will give you that.
            Nah, he’s a panderer to special interest groups. No conspiracy theories. He just is. That’s how machine politics work. You pander. You put a finger on the disgruntled and ask them for a dollar here, a dollar there and you get all their anger working for you.
            But it would be a lot more scandalous, colourful, and intriguing if he was dog fighting in the White House. At least that would show a strange sort of personal conviction in his decision to back pit bulls.

          • Karen

            Major animal welfare orgs don’t have the funds to pay him?! Bahahhahahahahhahaaa! Good one!

          • ed newell

            No fair! Its the patriarchy at fault

          • Karen

            That’s funny because if you read the pit bull forums that promote being a responsible pit owner (such as gopitbull), they are emphatic about going to extra measures to secure pit bulls, including reinforcing current fencing (since many of these mutants have dug under, climbed over, and simply burst through normal fencing) and NEVER leaving pit bulls unattended together with other dogs, even if they’ve coexisted peacefully for years. They are also adamant about not taking pits to dog parks or off-leash areas and always carrying a break stick. These are people that have had pits for 20-30 years or more and understand and are not in denial about their breed. They think (accurately so), people like you are why pit bulls have gotten their reputation and why so many people are calling for BSL. Maybe *you* should educate yourself on the breed instead of operating from a stance of pure emotion for the poor widdle misunderstood pibble wibbles that are really “just like any other dog”.

          • thatindividual

            My favourite one on the forums, not because it makes me happy, but because it is so revealing is: “My pit bull killed my other dog :( What should I do?”

          • Chef David Edelstein

            I have read their info… so I can confidently say “Nice manipulation of their words” you got going on there.
            If you parroted back EVERYTHING you read on their site, you would acknowledge that most of their suggestions have the dog’s protection from the outside world in mind, not the other way around.
            And that is true, Pit Bulls are not just like every other dog: they excel at loyalty, obedience, cognitive commands, socialability, athletics, etc etc etc AND it is also true they are not a breed for the average dog owner who throws their dog in the backyard / forgets about them or chains them to a tree. When a breed is that great, they have further to fall.

            Keep going, Im learning alot from you guys (the hate community).

        • Kris

          All reputable pit rescues and responsible bully breeders state that you should never leave them alone with other dogs. thatindividual comes across as intelligent and educate. Denial will get one or more of your dogs killed, or someone else’s dog. Shelter workers have told me of 5 and 6 week old Pit puppies killing their siblings. No one taught them to do that. They were bred for generations to maul and kill their own kind. You would be wise to be careful yourself, since 30 adults have been killed by their own pit/pits. In some cases, all it took was 1 pit to kill a healthy adult male.

          • thatindividual

            Thank you, Kris. I am also wondering if the Chef has color coded the leashes so he knows which one to let go of if there is a fight? – the Aussie is the only one a different hue, and is the most vulnerable. Perhaps this shows he knows the dangers and takes precautions? I hope so.

          • Kris

            Good idea with the color coding. Pits have been known their own kind in normal homes, but usually will go for the non-pit (most vulnerable) first. Most of the deaths on other animals done by pits are not reported. I know former pit rescuers and former pit owners that lost up to 4 dogs each to pits, but will not state that publicly. They don’t want the backlash and abuse from Pit advocates. Pit advocates are not helping their cause when displaying rude, aggressive behavior.

          • Chef David Edelstein

            Are you a licensed Veterinary Doctor? A Licensed Behaviorist? A Dog Trainer? A Director of Animal Control? or even a dog walker with personal hands-on experience with the majority of the known domestic dog breeds in the US? If not, you are just speculating (aka talking out your rear end). Go get at least 10 years of personal hands on experience in one of these professions and then come back and we can debate.

          • Kris

            Chef, I rescued 751 dogs, and rehabbed hundreds. Years ago, I was drinking the pit bull Kool-Aid just as you are now. Saw first-hand that you cannot trust this breed around other dogs. Were they fine as long as I was in the room? Yes. but walk out of the room and the pit reverts to its genetic heritage. Denying what these dogs created for is asking for disaster. Gary Wilkes is a very experienced trainer and he states:

          • Chef David Edelstein

            Well, lets do the math:
            4 Pit Bulls-
            #1 is 7 years old, #2 is 6 1/2, #3 is approx 7, #4 is 3 1/2.
            With JUST these 4 dogs… we collectively have 24 years of No fighting, no attacking others dogs, no attacks or even nips on humans, no running at large, no jumping fences… and they also boast 24 years of training other dogs non-aggression and sociability, confidence building, Tolerance building, athletics, sense of pack, and all the other lesson plans we include in our dog training and rehabilitation program.

            SO? I will see your skewed and manipulated opinion stole from someone else and raise you 24 years of actual hands-on, in person, witnessed impeccable behavior.

            AND… these are just my dogs. Shall I get into the 340+ dogs I have trained/ rehabilitated (about 40% of which were Pit Pulls) over the past 24 years?

            It must be extremely embarrassing to be just plain wrong about something that you believe with every fiber of your being. It never ceases to amuse me how people who know the very least about a topic do the most amount of talking about it.

          • Kris

            Chef,
            Even though you are abusive in your manner, I will still feel compassion for you when you make the news because your beloved pits mauled you. However, I do feel for anyone who interacts with you. Your aggression (not assertion) is not helping your cause.

          • Karen

            Is his choice of pit bulls as pets really surprising? I’m sure you’re familiar with the studies of the types of people that own pit bulls and other dangerous breeds.

          • Chef David Edelstein

            Isnt it convenient to use the “aggressive” label on someone when they have clearly presented a more viable argument than you.
            What Ive always found the must interesting is hate nutters like yourself wont engage in a formal public debate… not at city council meetings, not at rally/ protests, LOL not even via a streaming video call in talk show. I guess you queen hater Colleen warned the rest of you when she got her pants beaten off of her in 2008.
            I weep for your offspring.

          • Kris

            I rest my case.

          • Chef David Edelstein

            ? and what point is it that you have diluted yourself into thinking you have made?
            you just sunk yourself for boasting shotty sources of information.

          • AlRussell

            Dude, having 4 dogs, the oldest one being 7 years old, does NOT give you 24 years of experience. It gives you 7 years of experience with 4 dogs.

          • Chef David Edelstein

            that is true, but keep in mind, I have also been training/ rehabilitating other people’s dogs (all breeds) since 1990. And we are not a “we teach basic obedience” training outfit… we work on the very worst of the worst- former fighting dogs, over bred females, long term tethered dogs, highly abused and neglected dogs, dogs that have been left out in extreme weather with no food/water/shelter for mutliple years, etc.
            I would like to think from time doing this and the range of situations we have seen that we have a fairly grounded and well rounded view on breeds, on dog behaviors, on approaching behavioral issues, etc…
            at least our client roster and local animal control/ police and local politicians who we work with think so.

          • AlRussell

            Thanks for the nice reply. I’ve personally had very bad experiences with four different Pit Bulls over the years. My brother’s beloved Pit that he raised very kindly from a puppy snapped on him out of the blue one day and bit him savagely in the face. I’ve been charged by Pit Bulls on two separate occasions while walking my babies in a stroller and recently one tried to eat my dogs through our fence. Because of this, I have to disagree with your assertion that the breed is not inherently dangerous. I’ve been around dogs all my life and trained about a dozen, though I won’t try to claim that I’m an expert dog trainer. Still, I’ve never had the kind of negative encounters with another breed that I’ve had with Pit Bulls. That certainly colors my viewpoint, but I seem not to be alone in this. I’d still like to know if you believe that other breeds, i.e., herders and retrievers DO have instinctual traits based upon genetic manipulation. Because, if you hold that to be true, it wouldn’t make much sense to exclude only one breed from that reality. I’ve never gotten a Pit Bull advocate to answer that question so I’m just curious.

          • Chef David Edelstein

            Speaking from a dog trainer/ behaviorist’s point of view (not from a dog owner’s)… ALL DOGS give warning prior to snapping biting or attacking. Someone not trained to pick up on the subtleties (ie the majority of our culture) AND those who saw the sign (or even created the signs through abuse and neglect) know there will be no one to challenge the discrepancy. Its like those who abuse babies… the baby can only cry but not explain in detail what happened. Sure, the baby wont bite in its own defense, but the dynamic is the same. Like swimming pools, automobiles, gun, etc and all the things that hurt or kill people… the person responsible for that pool or car or gun MUST be responsible. And sometimes, that responsibility entales acknowledging that a dog or its particular breed (ie needs) are above and beyond their own capabilites… and not getting the dog in the first place. As a dog owner and some hell bent on ending breed misinformation and breed discrimination… the situation with pit bulls is just history repeating itself. The first were blodd hounds back in the days of silent movies, then came the German Shepherds, then the Rottweilers, Dobermans, a brush with Akitas, and now Pit Bulls.
            Its unfortunate that the media has such a strangle hold on our society that MANY people fall into the trap of believing everything the media spews as the gospel. Have some Pit Bulls attacked or even killed people and other dogs? Yes. But so have about 30% of all other breeds. Why doesnt the media report those? In the past thirty years… “ROTTWEILER KILLS BABY” is not what sells newspapers. “PIT BULL XYZ” is what creates hype and sells newspapers. Is this just my opinion? No… this is a drawn conclusion from interviewing over 2 dozen veteran reporters who are no longer in the “game” and lose nothing by revealing the man behind the curtain.
            As for the pit bull haters… they are just in a twist because the pit bull myth is fading as we are seeing cities 9 to 1 dropping pit bull bans and going with generalized dangerous dog laws instead of breed specific ones.
            What ever your experience is with those particular Pit Bulls in the past… that is unfortunate and Im sorry you experienced that… but does condemning an entire breed for the irresponsible actions of the few equate?
            I was assaulted and robbed by three black men in Long Beach, CA in 2002. Should I hold all black people accountable for that incident? I dont think I should and so I do not. I have many black friends and clients who are some of the best people I know.

            I will make you a deal: Come to Denver, CO and meet our pack. I’ld be willing to bet a year’s salary that you will walk away scratching your head thinking “Those were Pit Bulls? But they were social and friendly and obedient and gentle and took my nervousness into consideration when approaching me.” We do this multiple times per day with all sorts of people (young, old, different ethnic backgrounds, etc) and the outcome is always the same: When can I come back and visit with the pack?

            The Pit Bull Breed(s) are great dogs… but they are terriers thus not making them for every would be dog owner. When you hear of an incident involving a pit bull… look not at the dog but the shit head owner on the other end of the leash that was not taking care of their dog to begin with.

            By the way… our dogs are far from perfect. They are dogs: they go after mom’s shoes, they have accidents in the house, they chase squirrels, etc etc etc… just like every other breed and/ or individual dog. But as a responsible dog owner… I WILL ADMIT these incidents we do have all lead back TO ME (forgetting to put their toys out, forgetting to put up the flap on the doggy door, not being able to get in our 5 mile run due to weather, etc). If every dog owner admitted their wrong doing with their dog(s)… our culture would see human error behind every dog related incident.

    • thatindividual

      what does your shirt say?

    • AlRussell

      I do have one question for you. Does your Aussie herd? If so, did you train it to do so? My BC does herd, as does my German Shepherd, despite the fact that I’ve never tried to encourage it. If you agree that these, and other breeds, exhibit instinctual behaviors based upon their genetic heritage why is it not also true for the Pit? I’ve never heard anyone argue that other breeds don’t have inherent traits based upon genetics. Pit owners are the only ones I’ve ever encountered to hold so strongly to the position that their breed is not impacted by the past efforts of humans to shape their behavior through genetics.

      • Chef David Edelstein

        She is actually an Aussie/ Border Collie Mix according to DNA. Yes, her natural tendency is to “WORK” or herd. Since we dont have a flock of sheep for her to manage, her default was to attempt to herd the pack of dogs. We have worked to re-assign her as THAT job is mine. We have moved those tendencies/ efforts over to athletics so she is still exercising her brain, but doing something constructive instead of destructive. She still distances herself from the pack (staying back so as to keep an eye on everyone- aka still on the job) but we have found a healthy middle ground. If you have a herding breed and need an outlet for your dog… agility is a wonderful sport to get into. The trainer I work with who specializes in agility training uses 2 border collies and a blue healer as her chief training dogs. You havent seen “focus” until you have seen these three dogs working their craft. Even my six hang their heads in shame when we go watch the agility dogs doing their thing. It is a sight to see.

        • AlRussell

          My Border Collie is actually pretty well behaved. She has the natural tendency to herd smaller animals and children under the age of about 5, but now that my kids are older it’s not much of an issue. Luckily, she seems happy and engaged enough with her life not to be bored. A bored BC is never a good thing. I appreciate your information. I wish I’d known about you when we had a lovely Shiloh rescue with fear aggression. He was awesome with us, but became so overprotective of the kids that we ended up placing him with a Schutzhund trainer because we were out of our depth. I cried until I pulled a muscle over losing that dog! I’d regardless, still really like your take on the genetics question though. If you feel, as I do, that breeds often carry intrinsic genetic behavior traits, why deny the same of Pit Bulls? Much like Collies were bred to herd, Pit Bulls were bred to fight. Isn’t is natural to expect some of that manipulation to show in this breed just as it does in all the others?

  • Mike Thompson

    And people ask me why I carry a gun

    • Action

      Now finally someone with some common sense.

  • Yoka124

    For every human being pit bull type dogs maul or kill, they maul or kill about 75 harmless, non-human animals. It infuriates me that the SO-CALLED ‘humane’ societies don’t care a bit about all the maulings and deaths of our ordinary, non-dangerous dogs (to say nothing of the many other harmless animals these pit-type monsters maul just for fun) — these ‘humane’ societies only care about pit bull type dogs. I beg everyone to stop donating to these ‘humane’ societies and to send them a letter telling them why. They won’t get another cent from me until they stop being exclusively pit bull advocates and start campaigning to have these vicious animal killers banned.

    • Kris

      Yoka124,
      Totally agree. It is irresponsible and foolish to place dogs bred for dog aggression into homes. A “Humane Society” called me crazy because I don’t believe that dogs should be adopted into homes with bully breeds. What is the point of “saving” a dog only to have them torn to pieces by their housemate down the road? Rescuers and “Humane Societies” often lie about the type of dog that they are placing, and will call the dog a “lab mix” or something similar. The people who adopt these dogs have no idea that they are living with a ticking time bomb. Many former pit owners and former pit rescuers have come home to dead dogs. Pits should NEVER be trusted alone with other dogs, but they have killed the other dog in the household with the owner present. When thousands of gentle dogs that were not bred to kill their own kind are slaughtered daily, it makes zero sense to save dogs that were bred for fighting and place them in homes with other pets.

    • kaththee

      The pit bull apologist infuriate me because they are so attached to this aesthetic in a dog that it overrides the needs and safety of everyone around them and even the welfare of the dogs. If they could breed an 800lb dog that breathed fire and farrted bullets they would. Then they would tell you how sweet it was.

  • ustateach09

    These killer dogs should be put down! What are we waiting for? What will it take, a dead child? There are leash laws and these people who don’t keep their dogs on them should have them put down. Why should their dogs be allowed to live – kill the killers.

  • staffordnative

    Bottom line, regardless of type of dog, owners who let their dogs run free and end up attacking people or any other animal should be fined heavily and depending on the severity, face jail time. If you want to be a pet owner, you need to be responsible for your pet.

  • Jessica

    I have 2 pits and of course I am going to be a proud pitbull lover. It just sucks that everybody thinks they are bad dogs. Mine have gotten loose before and I did have to appear in court and when animal control picked them up, he said nicest pits I have ever seen/met. They were walking around the neighborhood together. My heart does go out for the dog that died, but pits are not the only dogs that attack!

    • Kristie-Anne Butler

      Well said Jessica I totally agree with you. I feel sorry for the pet that was killed and the owner. I am not heartless at all or immune to the damage that they cause.

  • AlRussell

    We had to wrestle a pit bull to the ground two weeks ago that was running free and trying to eat our dogs through our fence. It’s already attacked one other dog in our neighborhood. Unfortunately the other neighbor never filed a report so Animal Control had no history on the animal. I’m so past sick of these owners who get a dog without proper understanding of the needs of the breed. If you want Pit, fine. Make sure you can handle it and keep the rest of our dogs and children safe from your folly!

    • thatindividual

      Amen.

    • Karen

      You should have spaded him!

      • Ghastly

        ROFLMAO!!! That was precious! Thank you for the laugh.

  • rufus12345

    The owner of the euthanized pit bull is likely still right there in that neighborhood, laughing about the whole thing. She or he does not want to come forward, and pay fines ,vet bills of the victim, and buy the girl a new dog. If deputies have photos of the pit bull, they could post them in FLS, and neighbors might tip them off as to whom the pit bull belonged to.

  • adv1sor

    Email your County Supervisor today and ask that they increase the fines for dogs running at large to $1K for the first offense. Ask them to compell animal control officers to always impose a fine before turning over a captured at large dog. People don’t care about their dogs but maybe they will care about their wallets?

  • Michael Blevins

    While it can be argued that pit bulls may not attack any more often than any other breed, they are definitely much more likely to do massive damage in a very short time. It is for this reason that their owners have to be vigilant every moment. They should never be left alone with your other pets or your children. They should be muzzled whenever they are out in public or out of the confines of their owner’s yard and those yards should be made escape proof no matter what that might cost the dog’s owner. They should probably be muzzled at any time other than feeding time. Don’t get me wrong because I have loved pit bulls and defended people’s rights to own them but I also know that they are powerful enough to kill in an instant. I also know that any animal can turn aggressive very quickly and that should always be on the owner’s mind. There is a great deal of responsibility that comes with with owning a large and powerful pet and far too many owners have not lived up to that challenge. I implore any owners of all potentially deadly animals to take every precaution possible against any future tragedy BEFORE it might happen so that it never will.

    • Ghastly

      Michael, even though I would love to see every pit bull sterilized, I thank you for such an intelligent and well worded response. Yours is one of the most reality based comments I have read here.

      • Michael Blevins

        Thank you, Ghastly. I do appreciate your response.

  • vicki t.

    Bann these dogs. Thank god it wasn’t a small child like a lot of times.

    • adv1sor

      Thank God indeed that it wasn’t a small child or an elderly woman. It seems these types of dogs only attack smaller defenseless targets. I wonder, is that in their breed or their upbringing?

      • vicki t.

        Yes ,It sure does seem that way I noticed that. Very bad.

  • Jennifer

    In my opinion, there needs to be harsher punishments for dog owners that allow their dogs to run freely. $50 is no deterrent. I’m also curious to know what type of restitution (if any) the owner of the pit had to pay the owner of the Maltese.

    • Chef David Edelstein

      A+

      • adv1sor

        Email your County Supervisor today and ask that they increase the fines for dogs running at large to $1K for the first offense. Ask them to compell animal control officers to always impose a fine before turning over a captured at large dog. People don’t care about their dogs but maybe they will care about their wallets?

        • Chef David Edelstein

          Another A++

  • Darrin Stephens

    No matter what you identify them as or what you choose to call them if any dog has pit bull genetics in it then the outcome of said genetics are always the same, death, mauling’s, crippled and disfigured victims when their DNA is expressed into reality which it invariably will be the case.

    So you can call them something else to protect them but they are still pit mixes who are what they are and do what they do, who as a result have no right to ever come into human contact.

    Pit bull or Pit bull cross, same difference same outcome same reality as to what they are.

    And all Pit bulls or restricted dogs including pit bull crosses by law should have leashes and Muzzles which they never have and all to often you seem them running around as such unmuzzled, this is an even greater problem then them being unleashed and that is bad enough.

    Certain breeds like Pit bulls etc.are fundamentally evil in nature and action and do not deserve the freedom of action to carry out their DNA.

    The point is, other dogs bite, Pit bulls and Pit bull crosses and others like mastiffs, Rotts etc. attack and kill and maim, that is the big difference in the outcome and should result in a completely different attitude towards these dogs and why they should be banned outright. The stats are very clear and accurate and show this reality even if you want to put your head in the sand, it still is what it is.

  • Darrin Stephens

    Simply put, border collies do not herd sheep because they are raised on sheep farms; rather, they are raised on sheep farms because they herd. In addition pointers point, retrievers retrieve, and mastiffs guard, all because those traits are part of their breed expectations, meaning strong and continuous selection in the underlying breeding program ”

    Simply put Pit bulls do not attack because they are raised with dog fighters and drug dealers, dog fighters and drug dealers use pit bulls because they attack!

    It is their nature, their genetic truth and reality.!!
    It is not how you raise them rather it is simply what they are.!!
    Just like sled dogs run and pull, it is just their nature.!!

    A pit bull type dog is what it is and does what it is.You can no more alter it genetic makeup then you can a collies to herd, a hounds to track, a retriever’s to retrieve, a labs to swim, a pointers to point, a sled dog to run and pull.

    They do what they are and a pit bull type dog is a mauling violent killer that has been bred to be a land shark, nothing you do can change that, even if you have them from birth.

    No matter if you love them, or how you nurture, train, rehabilitate, raise them optimally as normal dogs from birth, you can not change their Genetic reality to Kill, Maul, Maim, Disfigure, Dismember, cause Life Flights or trips to the Intensive Care Unit.

    For over 600 years the current pit bull type dog was brought into being through careful selective genetic breeding to create the most violent murderous fighting dog possible.

  • Darrin Stephens

    Dog Attack Deaths and Maimings, U.S. & Canada, September 1982 to May.25, 2013

    By compiling U.S. and Canadian press accounts between 1982 and 2013,
    Merritt Clifton, editor of Animal People, shows the breeds most
    responsible for serious injury and death.

    Study highlights

    Pit bull type dogs make up only 6% of all dogs in the USA.

    The combination of Pit Bulls, rottweilers, their close mixes and wolf hybrids and other Pit Bull Type Dogs:

    84% of attacks that induce bodily harm.

    75% of attacks to children.

    87% of attack to adults.

    72% of attacks that result in fatalities.

    80% that result in maiming.

  • Darrin Stephens

    Sadly one does not even have to search for the many attacks of these savage mutant undog’s on humans and pets, there are literally hundreds of new incidents every day carried out by these disgusting creatures, here is another.

    These are all major daily newspapers and network TV station accurate factual reports with direct access to Doctors, ER’s Animal control officers, Police, the victims family, witnesses, the guilty pit nutters, all in news reports from major city newspapers and TV stations, as legit therefore as it possibly can be.

    There is only one breed that has every been or is a threat to public safety and that is the pit bull, the sooner they are exterminated the sooner tragic attacks like the one below will be ended.

    Ban the breed and end the deed.

    Dogs are not humans, there is every reason to be threatened by a pit bull just because of what it is, no different then it would be to feel threatened by ANY bear, lion, tiger, wolverine, cobra etc. that you encountered, if they charged you then there would be justification to kill any of them if you were carrying, same thing with a pit bull, any pit pit bull.

    You can no more be biased or prejudiced against any pit bull then you can be so against any bear, lion, tiger, wolverine, cobra etc. so that is an absurd argument on the part of the nutters.

    That 4% of the dog population carries out 70%+ of the killings, mauling, crippling, disfiguring and dismembering attacks to such a disproportionate extent speaks for itself and to the genetic truth and reality that exists in any pit bull type dog, it is what it is and does what is in it’s DNA.This has been breed into them over 600 years and is their truth, they must therefore become extinct.

    Any other dog will bite and run giving you a few stitches, a pit bull will not stop till you are DEAD.What about that do you not understand, the difference between another dog’s bite and a pit bulls mauling and dismembering, disfiguring and killing.

  • Darrin Stephens

    A pit bull BSL works EVERYWHERE it is useful in almost eliminating all serious dog attacks that maim, disfigure, dismember, maul, cripple.
    or kill, this is a simply proven fact in all cases.The number of pit bulls is dramatically reduced as are the numbers of them put to death.

    The need to have BSL is to have a preemptive capability to avoid a pit bull attack from happening due to it’s extremely savage consequences.

    It is enacted against all pit bulls as they all have the genetic DNA propensity to carry out these horrific attacks that are non existent in 99% of all other breeds, ban the breed and you ban the deed, simple as that.

    Dealing with an attack after the fact is simply not acceptable due to the horrific nature of said attacks.

    With any other breed other then Rottweiler’s, wolf hybrids and Akita’s and a few others in very small numbers it is not a naturally genetic reality for them to carry out such horrifying attacks.

    Hence they need to be dealt with in an aggressive reactive modality where all of the breed are not looked on as one but rather based on the actions of the individual misbehaving dog.

    This can be done in a very aggressive proactive manner so that as soon as a dog like a lab lets say starts behaving inappropriately severe consequences can be brought to bare on the owner and their dog in an escalating manner as needed to deal with a situation that has developed.

    This duel track approach can deal with the pits issue as other normal dog breeds can be dealt with as well so vicious dogs of other mainstream breeds are also held accountable for their actions.

    There should be mandatory Spay/Neuter programs for all breeds but clearly the one that needs it the most and where the most change would be effected would be with the Pit Bull type dog.

  • Darrin Stephens

    The pit bull drooler’s don’t get it, they are in effect demanding that they be able to walk around with a loaded.

    hand gun, round chambered, safety off with a hair trigger & that we all smile when they point it at us.

    Pit bulls or Pit bull cross, same difference, same outcome, same reality as to what they are.

    And all Pit bulls or restricted dogs including pit bull crosses by law should have leashes and Muzzles which they almost never have, this should become the law everywhere, and all to often you see them running around as such unmuzzled, this is an even greater problem then them being unleashed.

    Pit bulls and Pit bull crosses and others like mastiffs, Rotts etc. attack and kill and maim while normal dogs bite, that is the big difference in the outcome and should result in a completely different attitude towards these dogs and why they should be banned outright.

    The stats are very clear and accurate and show this reality even if you want to put your head in the sand, it still is what it is.

    Certain breeds like Pit bulls etc.are fundamentally evil in nature and action and do not deserve the freedom of action to carry out their DNA.

    “Pit bulls are different; they’re like wild animals,” says Alan Beck, director for the Center for the Human Animal Bond at Purdue University School of Veterinary Medicine, West Lafayette, IN. “They’re not suited for an urban environment. I believe we should open our eyes and take a realistic approach to pit bulls.”

    A 1993 Toronto study found pit bulls accounted for 1 percent of licensed dogs but 4 percent of bites. More ominous is a 2000 study by the Centers for Disease Control looking at 20 years of data on fatal dog attacks in the U.S.

    Of 238 such incidents in which the breed of the attacking dog was reported, “pit bull-type dogs” were involved in 32 percent of them while being 1% of the population.

    Pit Bulls should be banned from inside city limits anywhere.

  • Darrin Stephens

    9 People dead by dog attack in 2014.
    Pit bull type dogs killed 7 of them.
    Six of the dead are children.

    Stars indicate people killed by a ‘family’ pit bull – ones that had
    been raised and cherished as an indoor pet, ‘never showed aggression
    before’, and knew the victim.

    Child fatalities by pit bull type dog (5)
    Kara E. Hartrich, 4 years old, Bloomington, Illinois. **
    Je’vaeh Maye, 2 years old, Temple Texas.
    Braelynn Rayne Coulter, 3 years old, High Point, North Carolina. **
    Kenneth Santillan, 13 years old, Patterson, N.J.
    Raymane Camari Robinson, 2 years old, Killeen, TX

    Adult fatalities by pit bull type (2):
    Christina Burleson, 43 years old, Houston, Texas.
    Klonda S. Richey, 57 years old, Dayton, Ohio.

    That’s 78% killed by attacking pit bull type dogs.
    Pit Bull type dogs are only about 6% of the entire dog population.

    Summer Sears, 4 years old, Tallassee, AL by Husky/German Shepard Cross

    89-year-old Annabell Martin, Corona, CA. by her grandson’s three Rottweilers.**
    *******************************************************************
    33 People dead by dog attack in 2013.
    Pit bull type dogs killed thirty of them. sixteen of the twenty-nine dead are children.

    Stars indicate people killed by a ‘family’ pit bull – ones that had
    been raised and cherished as an indoor pet, ‘never showed aggression
    before’, and knew the victim.

    Child fatalities by pit bull type dog (16):
    Christian Gormanous – 4 yrs old Montgomery County, TX
    Isaiah Aguilar – 2 yrs old Sabinal, TX
    Ryan Maxwell – 7 yrs old ** Galesburg, IL.
    Dax Borchardt – 14 mos old ** Walworth, WI.
    Monica Laminack – 21 mos old ** Ellabelle, GA.
    Tyler Jett – 7 yrs old Callaway, FL.
    Jordyn Arndt – 4 yrs old ** Prairie City, IA.
    Beau Rutledge – 2 yrs old ** Fulton County, GA.
    Ayden Evans- 5 yrs old ** Jessieville, AR.
    Nephi Selu – 6 yrs old ** Union City, CA.
    Arianna Jolee Merrbach – 5 yrs old Effingham, SC.
    Daniel (surname as yet not revealed) – 2 yrs old (Gilbert, Arizona) **
    Samuel Eli Zamudio – 2 yrs old** Colton, CA
    Jordan Ryan– 5 yrs old Baker city, Oregon
    Levi Watson-Bradford-4 years old** White County, Arkansas
    Jah’niyah White – 2 years old ** Chicago, Ill

    Adult fatalities by pit bull type (13):
    Betty Todd – 65 yrs old ** Hodges, SC
    Elsie Grace – 91 yrs old ** Hemet, CA
    Claudia Gallardo – 38 yrs old Stockton, CA.
    Pamela Devitt – 63 yrs old Littlerock, CA.
    Carlton Freeman – 80 yrs old Harleyville, SC.
    Linda Oliver – 63 yrs old Dayton, TX.
    James Harding – 62 yrs old -Baltimore, MD
    chased into traffic by two attacking pit bulls
    Juan Campos – 96 yrs old Katy, Texas.
    Terry Douglass 56 years old. **Baltimore, MD
    Katherine Atkins-25 years old ** Kernersville, NC
    Nga Woodhead-65 years old Spanaway, WA.
    Joan Kappen, 75 years old Hot Springs Ark
    Michal Nelson, 41 years old Valencia County, New Mexico **

    (1 non-pit type killing) [Rachel Honabarger - 35 yrs old - mauled to death by her own GSD mix] Coshocton, OH.

    (1 husky-mix killing, unknown if the other half of the dog was pit bull) [Jordan Lee Reed – 5 yrs old] Kotzebue, AK

    (1 Shiba Inu killing) Mia Gibson – age 3 months, of Gibson, OH – mauled to death by family Shiba Inu.

    Three of the pit bull type dogs were BULL mastiffs, ie 40% pit-fighting bulldog.

    If 27 of 33 dead were killed by pit bull attack, that’s 82% dead by pit
    attack, 9% dead by ‘molosser’, 3% by some kind of GSD mix, 3% by a
    husky + possibly pit mix, 3% by Shiba Inu.

    If you count the
    pit-mix mastiffs as pit bull types, that’s 91% killed by attacking pit
    bull types. Pit types are only about 5% of the entire dog population.

    The man who ran into traffic kept pit bulls himself. He knew perfectly
    well what the two stranger pit bulls that were chasing him would do if
    they caught him, so he preferred to risk a swift death by oncoming car.

    534 maimed by pit type dogs 2013 (as of November.28).

  • Darrin Stephens

    The Myth:
    “There’s no such breed as a pit bull.” “Pit bulls aren’t a breed; they are just a ‘type’ of dog.”

    The Reality:
    The term “pit bull” in lower-case letters refers to three closely-related breeds. The original breed was the Staffordshire Bull Terrier, a dog bred for pit fighting in the 18th and 19th centuries in the UK.

    After importation to the U.S. in the late 19th century, they continued to be used for fighting, but were bred to be taller and heavier.

    These larger cousins were then registered in the UKC as “American Pit Bull Terriers” (1898) and in the AKC as the “American Staffordshire Terrier” (1936). Note that these are identical breeds under two different names, and many individuals hold conformation championships in both registries.

    In addition, some of the original, smaller dogs were reimported from the UK and were recognized in the AKC as the original “Staffordshire Bull Terriers” (1935).

    A recent ASPCA study revealed that 93% of shelter workers were able to properly identify a “pit bull,” meaning one of the three closely-related (or identical) breeds above (click here to see the study).

    The American Pit Bull Terrier is actually one of the purest and oldest of registered breeds. The second-largest national kennel club in the world, the UKC, was originally founded in 1898 for the express purposed of registering fighting pit bulls.

    For approximately the first 50 years, a pit bull not only had to be purebred, but had to win 3 dog fights in order to be registered with the UKC. Today, these dogs’ descendants compete to win prizes in conformation, weight pull, and other sports.
    Thousands have earned the title of UKC Conformation Champion.

    Verdict: The three “pit bull” breeds, including the American Pit Bull Terrier, are just as purebred as St. Bernards, Schnauzers or Dalmatians.

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    IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO IDENTIFY A PIT BULL

    The Myth:
    No one can correctly identify a pit bull. Fighting breed advocates claim that most people shown a collage of dog photos online can’t tell which one is the pit bull.

    The Reality:
    Many pit bull advocate groups post a collage of dog pictures online and ask the public to “identify the pit bull”.

    What the public does not know is that the majority of dogs pictured are shot from camera angles deliberately designed to mislead. In addition, they show heads only, so size cannot be considered—this would not be the case when seeing the dog in real life.

    They also feature many rare breeds that are related to pit bulls, but which are extremely uncommon in the United States (e.g., the Dogue de Bordeaux, Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldog, and Ca de Bou).

    And one of the dog breeds that is included is an American Staffordshire Terrier which is the exact same breed as the American Pit Bull Terrier, but registered with another organization. Click here for an in-depth, illustrated article about this misleading test.

    It should also be noted that many humane societies offer discounts on spaying/neutering of pit bulls. If pit bulls are so difficult to identify, then how do shelter workers identify who qualifies for the discount?

    There are also many pit bull rescues with the term “pit bull” in the organization name. How do these groups know which dogs to rescue?

  • Darrin Stephens

    “OTHER BREEDS BITE MORE OFTEN THAN PIT BULLS”

    The Myth:
    Fighting breed advocates often erroneously claim that other breeds (Chihuahuas, Golden Retrievers, Labrador Retrievers, etc.) bite, and even kill, more often than fighting breeds.

    The Reality:
    The statistics vary depending on breed popularity in a particular area. However, Chicago IL, Las Vegas NV, and New York NY all verified that pit bulls were the #1 breed for reported bites in 2013.

    We believe that the focus shouldn’t be on the number of bites, but on the severity as well as the fatalities. Dog “bite” victims usually endure a brief attack lasting seconds, while dog “mauling” victims often endure lengthy attacks should they survive.

    One of the longest dog attacks on record was in Cary, Illinois and involved 6 peopled being mauled for an hour and half total. Nationwide, pit bulls rank as the #1 breed whose attack is likely to result in the victim’s death.

    Unfortunately, many communities do not record the severity of reported bites. Both a single shallow puncture from a Chihuahua and a fatal mauling by a 100 lb. Cane Corso are officially reported as a “bite.”

    It is important to understand that fighting breeds have a completely different bite profiles than most other breeds. They are bred to bite down, clamp and shake, causing severe tissue damage.

    Many attacks can go on for 10-30 minutes, even as passers-by try in vain to remove the attacking dog by choking it, kicking it, beating it with shovels or baseball bats.

    There are cases of fighting breeds continuing to maul their victim even after the police have shot the dog multiple times at point-blank range.

  • Darrin Stephens

    My Legislation Proposal to be enacted by all states,
    cities and counties in the US & Canada.

    All dogs must be:
    Or all dangerous dogs must be:

    Or all dangerous molosser breeds, including pit bulls (Staffordshire
    bull terriers, American pit bull terriers, and any dog generally
    recognized as a pit bull or pit bull terrier and includes a dog of mixed
    breed with predominant pit bull or pit bull terrier
    characteristics), rottweilers, presa canarios, cane corsos, chow chows,
    Doberman pinschers, German shepherds, mastiffs, dogo argentinos, fila
    brasieros, and their mixes must be:

    * Licensed
    * Micro-chipped with any bite history in database

    * Insured: All dogs must be covered by mandatory liability insurance of
    $100,000 min. generic and $500,000 after a skin breaking bite with
    insurance companies based on actuarial statistic’s determining said
    rate.
    * Spayed/neutered (except for limited approved show dog breeders)
    * All breeds involved in any bite incident must be kenneled in a locked five-sided enclosure with concrete bottom.

    For all other dog owners language can be written that enclosure such as
    fences must be capable of containing your dog period, such generic
    language puts the onus on the owner, have the fines be so onerous that
    said owner will ensure this they make this so.

    1,000 the first
    time, double the second time and permanent confiscation the third time
    with a ban on said person from owning any dog within city limits, this
    will create an effective outcome directly or indirectly.
    * All dogs must be on leashes outside of home enclosure
    * All molosser breeds must also be muzzled outside of home enclosure

    * No transport of declared dangerous dogs for the purpose of re-homing.
    (Dangerous dogs must be dealt with where their history is known.)
    * All of the rules listed above also apply to rescues: rescued dogs must be licensed and subject to inspection.

    $1,000 fine for noncompliance
    Elimination of the one-bite rule in all of the 50 U.S. states
    Manslaughter charges for owner of dog that kills a human
    Felony charge for owner of dog that mauls human, dog, or other domestic animal

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    ALEXANDRA SEMYONOVA, animal behaviorist

    You will also not prevent the dog from being what he is genetically predisposed to be. Because the inbred postures and behaviors feel good, fitting the body and brain the dog has been bred with, they are internally motivated and internally rewarded.

    This means that the behavior is practically impossible to extinguish by manipulating external environmental stimuli.

    The reward is not in the environment, but in the dog itself! As Coppinger and Coppinger (2001, p. 202) put it, “The dog gets such pleasure out of performing its motor pattern that it keeps looking for places to display it.” Some dogs get stuck in their particular inbred motor pattern.

    As pointed out above, this kind of aggression has appeared in some other breeds as an unexpected and undesired anomaly – the golden retriever, the Berner Senne hund, the cocker spaniel have all had this problem.

    The lovers of aggressive breeds try to use these breeding accidents to prove that their aggressive breeds are just like any other dog, “see, they’re no different from the cuddly breeds.” But a cuddly breed sometimes ending up stuck with a genetic disaster does not prove that the behavior is normal canine behavior. All it proves is that the behavior is genetically determined.

    “These dogs aren’t killers because they have the wrong owners, rather they attract the wrong owners because they are killers.” The 100 Silliest Things People say about dogs.

    JOHN FAUL, animal behaviorist

    Faul said they were dangerous and a threat to life. He said the pitbull was bred to be absolutely fearless and had a “hair-trigger” attack response.

    “The cardinal rule is that these dogs are not pets,” he said.

    “The only way to keep them is in a working environment.”

    He said the only relationship one could have with the pitbull was one of “dominance, sub-dominance”, in which the dog was reminded daily of its position.

    ANDREW ROWAN, PhD, Tufts Center for Animals

    “A pit bull is trained to inflict the maximum amount of damage in the shortest amount of time. Other dogs bite and hold. A Doberman or a German shepherd won’t tear if you stand still.

    A pit bull is more likely to remove a piece of tissue. Dogs fight as a last resort under most circumstances. But a pit bull will attack without warning. If a dog shows a submissive characteristic, such as rolling over most dogs wills top their attack. A pit bull will disembowel its victim.”

    “A study by Dr Randall Lockwood of the US Humane Society found that pit bulls are more likely to break restraints to attack someone and that pit bulls are more likely to attack their owners, possibly as a result of owners trying to separate their dogs from victims.”

    Jørn Våge, Tina B Bønsdorff, Ellen Arnet, Aage Tverdal and Frode Lingaas, Differential gene expression in brain tissues of aggressive and non-aggressive dogs

    The domestic dog (Canis familiaris), with its more than 400 recognised breeds [1], displays great variation in behaviour phenotypes.

    Favourable behaviour is important for well-being and negative traits such as aggression may ruin the owner-dog relationship and lead to relinquishment to shelters or even euthanasia of otherwise healthy dogs [2,3].

    Behavioural traits result from an interaction of both genetic and environmental factors. Breed specific behavioural traits such as hunting, herding and calmness/aggression are, however, evidence of a large genetic component and specific behaviours show high heritabilities [4-8].

    ALAN BECK, Sc.D

    However, Alan Beck, director of the Purdue University School of Veterinary Medicine Center of the Human-Animal Bond, favors letting the breed go into extinction.

    “This breed alone is a risk of serious public health factors,” Beck said. “We are keeping them alive against their own best interests.”

    Beck said while he does not advocate taking dogs from current and caring owners, he does feel that it has become more of a social and political issue for people than a health one.

    “If these dogs were carrying an actual disease, people would advocate euthanizing them,” Beck said. “This breed itself is not natural.”

    “It has this sort of mystique that attracts a population of people. Of course, most of these dogs are never going to bite, as champions of the breed will tell you. But most people who smoke don’t get cancer, but we know regulations help reduce a significant risk.”

    “I know you’re going to get beat up for this. But they just aren’t good dogs to own. That’s why so many of them are relinquished to shelters. There are too many other breeds out there to take a chance on these guys.”

    MERRITT CLIFTON, journalist, Animal People editor

    There are very few people, if any, who have written more on behalf of dogs over the past 40-odd years than I have, or spent more time down the back alleys of the developing world observing dogs in the habitats in which normal dogs came to co-evolve with humans.

    But appreciation of the ecological roles of street dogs & coyotes, exposing dog-eating and puppy mills, opposition to indiscriminate lethal animal control, introduction of high-volume low-cost spay/neuter and anti-rabies vaccination, introduction of online adoption promotion, encouraging the formation of thousands of new humane societies worldwide, etc., are not to be confused with pit bull advocacy.

    Pit bull advocacy is not defending dogs; it is defending the serial killers of the dog world, who kill, injure, and give bad reputations to all the rest. Indeed, pit bull advocacy, because it erodes public trust in dogs and people who care about dogs, stands a good chance of superseding rabies as the single greatest threat to the health, well-being, and human appreciation of all dogs worldwide.

    STANLEY COREN, PhD

    “A dog’s breed tells us a lot about that dog’s genetic heritage and makeup. Genetics is a strong determinant of personality. In the absence of any other information, we can make a reasonable prediction about how the dog will behave based upon its breed.” p 84

    “When we crossbreed, we lose some of that predictability, since which genes will be passed on by each parent and how they will combine is a matter of chance. Fortunately, there is some data to suggest that we can still make predispositions without knowing much about its parentage.

    John Paul Scott and John L Fuller carried out a series of selective breeding experiments at the Jackson Laboratories in Bar Harbor, Maine. By happy chance, their results revealed a simple rule that seems to work. Their general conclusion was that a mixed breed dog is most likely to act like the breed that it most looks like.” p 77

    Dog trainers/animal control, Pit Bull breeders, owners, fanciers, experts

    TRISH KING, Director, Behavior & Training Dept. Marin Humane Society

    “There is no direct eye contact or very little direct eye contact. It is very quick and over with. Which is one reason why with pit bulls and rottweilers, we have problems. Because they’re bred to do direct eye contact and so they are off putting to other dogs and actually scary to other dogs.”

    The fourth undesirable characteristic – arousal or excitement – is actually the most problematic. Many bully dogs cannot seem to calm themselves down once they get excited. And once they get excited all their behaviors are exacerbated.

    Thus, if a dog is over-confident and has a tendency to body slam or mount, he or she will really crash into the other dog or person when he’s aroused, sometimes inadvertently causing injury. He may begin to play-bite, and then bite harder and harder and harder.

    When you try to stop the behavior, the dog often becomes even more “aggressive.” In this way, play can turn into aggression fairly quickly. Research on the brain has shown that excited play has exactly the same chemistry as extreme anger. This allows a play behavior to switch quickly into aggression. And, once the dog has become aggressive a few times, the switch is much easier.

    DIANE JESSUP, pit bull expert, breeder, former ACO

    “Jessup, the animal control officer in Olympia, uses two pit bulls to train police and animal control officers on surviving dogs attacks.

    Unlike dogs who are nippers and rippers, her pit bulls are typically “grippers” who bite down and hang onto their victims.”

    Jessup believes that much of dog behavior comes from their genes. “I truly believe that a dog is about 90% genetics,” says Jessup.

    on protection sports

    This difference in “sheepdog versus bulldog” mentality in a trainer is best understood when training the “out!” or release command. It is common practice for those training shepherds and sheepdog types to use force such as hard leash corrections or electric shock to get the dog to release the sleeve.

    Sadly, I had one young man come to me because a club trainer was slugging his little Am Staff bitch in the nose, till she bled, trying to get her to release the sleeve.

    She would not! And of course she would not! She was a good little bulldog, hanging on for dear life, just as her bull and bear baiting ancestors of old did.

    She was a super little gripping dog, who took the pain she experienced as just “part of the job” once her owner set her upon the sleeve. And this is the response from well bred pit bulldogs—to ignore pain while gripping. It is, after all, what they are bred for! Give me a bulldog like her, rather than one which will allow itself to be yanked off the sleeve due to pain.

    MICHAEL BURNS, Los Angeles Animal Control Lt.

    You have a dog that has aggressive tendencies enhanced through constant and incestuous breeding. If there are some recessive genes on the aggressive or psychotic side, they will make themselves manifest.

    They are different. There’s an absence of the normal sounds a dog makes when it attacks. It’s almost a workmanlike way they hold on in an attack. It’s a persistence I haven’t seen in any other breed.

    KURT LAPHAM, a field investigator for the West Coast Regional office of the Humane Society

    Most breeds do not multiple-bite. A pit bull attack is like a shark attack: He keeps coming back.

    DAVID GENDREGSKE, Clare County MI Animal Control Director

    “In my opinion they appeal to the most irresponsible pet owners and to younger people,” he said.

    “The younger people have no jobs to support the animal, or they have to move where animals aren’t allowed and (the dogs) end up here.” Certain people like pit bulls because they are intimidating, he said. “They want to scare people. It’s an intimidation thing.

    They’re number one with those being incarcerated. If there’s a dog left behind (when someone is sentenced to jail or prison), it’s always a pit bull,” he said. He cited the time a pit bull got out of a car and attacked a horse.

    He was pulled off, but he went back and grabbed the throat. He was pulled off again and again and went back after different parts of the horse. “What kind of a dog but a pit bull would do that?” he asked. “All dogs can bite but not with that ferocity. “ Some people will say that how a pit bull acts and reacts is dependent upon how the dog is raised, he said.

    “But he was raised to kill for centuries,” he said. “You can’t breed it out in one generation.” If the popularity of pit bulls is a fad, it’s a long term one, he said. “I keep seeing more and more pit bulls,” he said. “It’s getting worse.”

    Pit bulls, he said, are not good as a working dog, except for perhaps wild boar hunting. “And they’re not one of the smarter breeds,” he said, despite other’s beliefs that they are intelligent.

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    KEVIN COUTTS, Head Dog Ranger, Rotorua, New Zealand

    There was concern among dog authorities about American pitbulls being allowed into New Zealand as they were dangerous, unpredictable animals, Mr Coutts said.

    “A lot of people in this town get them because they are a staunch dog and they will fight. They are perceived as vicious … It’s frustrating they were ever allowed in the country … we can’t go back now though,” Mr Coutts said.

    COUTTS’ comment on a pit car mauling

    This sort of thing happens when people own this breed of dog and then don’t look after them.

    VICTORIA STILWELL, celebrity dog trainer

    Presas are not to be fooled with, they’re dangerous. You’ve got a fighting breed here. You’ve got a dog that was bred for fighting. You’ve got one of the most difficult breeds to handle.

    CESAR MILAN, celebrity dog trainer

    “Yeah, but this is a different breed…the power that comes behind bull dog, pit bull, presa canario, the fighting breed – They have an extra boost, they can go into a zone, they don’t feel the pain anymore. He is using the bulldog in him, which is way too powerful, so we have to ‘make him dog’ (I guess as in a “regular” dog) so we can actually create the limits.

    So if you are trying to create submission in a fighting breed, it’s not going to happen. They would rather die than surrender.”. If you add pain, it only infuriates them..to them pain is that adrenaline rush, they are looking forward to that, they are addicted to it…

    That’s why they are such great fighters.” Cesar goes on to say…”Especially with fighting breeds, you’re going to have these explosions over and over because there’s no limits in their brain.”

    GARRETT RUSSO, dog trainer

    I estimate Medical & Veterinary bills related to injuries caused by pit bulls in the Tompkins Square dog run in 2011, $140,000.00. Estimated Medical (human) & Veterinary (canine) bills from all other breeds and mixed breeds combined during the same period, $5,000.00. (Estimate gathered from reports to by owners to the dog park association.)

    STEVE DUNO, dog trainer, pit bull owner

    “The dogs that participated in these attacks weren’t Pekingese. You don’t have herds of Pekingese roaming the city attacking people. When someone says all breeds are created equal, well then they’re denying the definition of what a breed is. Breed serves a particular purpose.”

    “I like them. They’re eager. They’re athletic. They’re aesthetically pleasing. But even if they’re bred perfectly, they can be problematic, particularly with other dogs.”

    “When you combine the breed specific behaviors … with owners who either don’t give a rip, or with owners who (have) too much dog, you have a problem.”

    JEAN DONALDSON, dog trainer

    Most commonly, she sees dogs with aggression problems. While she’s a fierce opponent of “breed bans” like the proposed outlawing of pit bulls that San Francisco debated two years ago, she believes it’s undeniable that some breeds are predisposed to violence.

    Many breeds that were bred as guardians or fighting dogs were carefully designed to not like strangers, she says. She thinks it’s disingenuous of breeders to further enhance this trait, and then expect owners to compensate with training.

    ARLENE STERLING, Newaygo County, MI Chief Animal Control Officer

    “It is genetically inbred in them to be aggressive. They can be very nice dogs, but they are very prey driven and they are extremely strong. It makes them high risk dogs and it makes them extremely dangerous.”

    BOB KERRIDGE, New Zealand SPCA executive director

    “That is the only real way to solve this problem – is to license owners and to give them the responsibility that goes with owning a dog. It would be extremely useful when you have a neighbour who is concerned about that dog next door. You can look at it and see they don’t have a license and take it away. That’s owner responsibility.”

    “We led the charge to stop the importation of the pitbull because of the concerns they would be crossbred with other dogs… But there’s not a lot we can do about that because it’s happened. We wish someone had listened all those years ago.”

    JIM CROSBY, pit bull hired gun

    “Line breeding tends to concentrate recessive traits. The propensity for violent attacks by a dog would be a recessive trait.”

    MELANIE PFEIFFER, veterinary assistant

    Working in a veterinary hospital, you are exposed to all kinds of animal trauma. One of the more common ones is dog fights. I can honestly say that in three out of four cases, an American pit bull terrier is involved. Many times, we are able to save the life of the afflicted, but yesterday, we were not.

    I propose that all owned American pit bull terriers be registered and all breeding be halted indefinitely. How many mutilated faces, mangled limbs, butchered pets and even human deaths does it take to convince us that this breed needs to be phased out?

    DIANE JESSUP, Washington pit bull owner and expert

    “It’s not sensible to get an animal bred for bringing a 2,000-pound bull to its knees and say I’m going to treat this like a soft-mouth Labrador,” says Jessup, the former animal-control officer. She blames novice owners, as much as actual criminals, for bringing the breed into disrepute. “It’s a capable animal, and it’s got to be treated as such.”

    JOHN ROCKHOLT, South Carolina dogman

    “It’s inhumane not to allow them to fight. If you have to encourage them to fight they are not worth the powder it would take to blow them away. To never allow them any kind of combat…That’s inhumane.”

    RAY BROWN, former pit bull owner, breeder, dog fighter

    Pit bulls didn’t become dangerous because we fight them; we fight them because the English specifically bred them to be dangerous.

    MARK PAULHUS, HSUS southeast regional coordinator

    If it chooses to attack, it’s the most ferocious of all dogs. I’ve never known of a pit bull that could be called off (during a fight). They lose themselves in the fight.

    F.L. DANTZLER, HSUS director of field services

    “They’re borderline dogs. They’re right on the edge all of the time. Even if the dogs are not trained or used for fighting, and even though they are generally good with people, their bloodline makes them prone to violence.”

  • Darrin Stephens

    HORSWELL BB, CHAHINE CJ, oral surgeons

    Dog bites of the facial region are increasing in children according to the Center for Disease Control. To evaluate the epidemiology of such injuries in our medical provider region, we undertook a retrospective review of those children treated for facial, head and neck dog bite wounds at a level 1 trauma center.

    Most dog bites occurred in or near the home by an animal known to the child/family. Most injuries were soft tissue related, however more severe bites and injuries were observed in attacks from the pit-bull and Rottweiler breeds.

    Younger (under five years) children sustained more of the injuries requiring medical treatment. Injury Severity Scales were determined as well as victim and payer mix demographics, type and characteristics of injury, and complications from the attack.

    DR RICHARD SATTIN, chief of unintentional-injuries section of the Centers of Disease Control

    We’re trying to focus public attention on this greatly underestimated public hazard.

    In 1979, pit bulls accounted for 20 percent of fatal attacks by dogs. That figure had risen to 62 percent by 1988.

    Nobody knows the dog population of the United States or the exact breakdown by breed. We do not believe that pit bulls represent anywhere near 42% percent of dogs in the United States. Therefore, we believe that the pit bull excess in deaths is real and growing.

    ROBERT D. NEWMAN, M.D.

    As a pediatrician I was disturbed to read Vicki Hearne’s assertion that there are no bad breeds, just bad dogs (Op-Ed, April 15). There is ample evidence to suggest that certain breeds of dogs are more dangerous to children than others.

    From 1979 to 1994, there were 177 known dog-bite-related fatalities in the United States. Of these fatalities, 66 percent were caused by five breeds: pit bull, Rottweiler, shepherd, husky and malamute.

    If you include crosses among these five breeds, that number rises to 82 percent. Other breeds, like Labrador retrievers and golden retrievers were not implicated in a single fatality during this same period.

    I laud the American Kennel Club’s attempt to include information about dog breeds considered ”not good with children” in the coming edition of ”The Complete Dog Book,” and lament the fact that the book is being recalled at the request of some breeders.

    Seattle, April 16, 1998

    Dr. EDGAR JOGANIK (after trying to reattach scalp and ear to a pit bull victim)

    Pit bull attacks are typically the most severe, and in about one-third of all attacks, the animals are family pets or belong to close friends.

    That should be the message, that these dogs should not be around children, adults are just as likely to be victims.

    Everyone should be extremely cautious.

    DR. MICHAEL FEALY

    When a Pit Bull is involved the bites are worse. When they bite, they bite and lock and they don’t let go… they bite lock and they rip and they don’t let go.

    DR. CHRISTOPHER DEMAS

    Bites from pit bulls inflict much more damage, multiple deep bites and ripping of flesh and are unlike any other domestic animal I’ve encountered. Their bites are devastating – close to what a wildcat or shark would do.

    DR. AMY WANDEL, plastic surgeon

    I see just as many dog bites from dogs that are not pit bulls as bites from pit bulls. The big difference is pit bulls are known to grab onto something and keep holding so their damage they create is worse than other breeds.

    DR. PATRICK BYRNE, Johns Hopkins Hospital

    I can’t think of a single injury of this nature that was incurred by any other species other than a pit bull or a rottweiler.

    ANDREW FENTON, M.D.

    As a practicing emergency physician, I have witnessed countless dog bites. Invariably, the most vicious and brutal attacks I have seen have been from the pit bull breed.

    Many of the victims have been children. In a recent study from the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia, pit bull attacks accounted for more ER visits than all other breeds combined.

    In young children, the most common part of the body injured was the face. Numerous studies have proven that the number-one cause of dog bite fatalities is the pit bull breed.

    I am certain that many attacks are due to owner negligence, but the fact remains that many were unpredictable and were perpetrated by formerly “loving and loyal” pets.

    Dr. Chagnon has every right to leave our town as she claims she will if pit bulls are banned, just like every one of her patients has the right not to attend her clinic where she brings her pit bulls.

    I applaud Mayor Pro Tem Joanne Sanders for bringing this issue to the forefront. In the interest of public safety, I recommend we enforce a spay/neuter requirement on pit bulls while reviewing and revamping all of our policies relating to animal bites.

  • Darrin Stephens

    MARK WULKAN, MD, surgeon at Children’s Healthcare of Atlanta

    “There is a difference with the pit bulls. In the last two years we’ve seen 56 dog injuries that were so severe the patient had to be admitted to the hospital so this doesn’t count just a little bite and then goes to the emergency room. Of those 56, 21 were pit bulls. And then when we look at our data even further, of the kids that were most severely injured, those that were in the hospital for more than 8 days or had life threatening injuries, 100% of those were pit bulls.

    STEPHEN COHN, MD, professor of surgery at the University of Texas Health Science Center

    “I think this is a public health hazard, this particular dog. We just have to have them contained in a way that protects the general public. I don’t want to see another kid come in dead.”

    JOHN BINI, MD, chief of surgery at Wilford Hall Medical Center

    “There are going to be outspoken opponents of breed legislation, who say: ‘My pit bulls lie with my baby and play with my rabbit.’ And that’s fine. I just think we’re seeing something here, and I think it does warrant a discussion as to whether this is a risk that a community wants to take.”

    MORTALITY, MAULING, AND MAIMING BY VICIOUS DOGS, April 2011 Annals of Surgery

    “Fortunately, fatal dog attacks are rare, but there seems to be a distinct relationship between the severity and lethality of an attack and the breed responsible,” they wrote in an article published in the April issue of the medical journal Annals of Surgery. “These breeds should be regulated in the same way in which other dangerous species, such as leopards, are regulated.”

    DAVID E. BLOCKER, BS, MD, Dog Bite Rates and Biting Dog Breeds in Texas, 1995-1997

    Bite Rates by Breed page 23

    One out of every 40 Pit Bulls (2.5%) and about one out of 75 Chow Chows (1.4%) generated a reported human bite each year (Table 29; Figure 7).

    One out of 100 Rottweilers (1%) caused a reported bite, and less than one out of 250 German Shepherds (0.37%) bit a human each year, not statistically different from the average for all dogs combined (0.53%).

    Huskies, Dobermans, and Australian Shepherds had bite rates slightly lower than German Shepherds but higher than Labrador Retrievers.

    Less than one in every 500 Labrador retrievers (0.15%) was associated with a reported bite each year. All other breeds examined individually, including Poodles, Cocker Spaniels, and Dachshunds, had bite rates lower than Labrador Retrievers.

    Odds ratios for each of the five most commonly biting dog breeds versus all others presented similar findings (Table 30). The odds of a Pit Bull in Bexar County causing a bite were 5 times greater than the odds for all other breeds combined, at 4.9 to 1.

    Chow Chows and Rottweilers also had odds ratios significantly greater than the average, at 2.9 to 1 and 1.8 to 1, respectively. The odds ratios for German Shepherds and Labrador Retrievers were significantly lower than the average, at 0.67 to 1 and

    0.26 to 1.

    PETER ANTEVY, pediatric E.R. physician, Joe DiMaggio Children’s Hospital

    Dr Antvey sees at least five dog-bite victims a month in his emergency room. Unfortunately, he said, “the biggest offender is the pit bull.”

    MELISSA ARCA, MD

    The reality is that any dog can bite, and statistically speaking, a child is most likely to be bitten by the family dog or a dog that they know. When you’re talking about bite severity resulting in life-threatening and even fatal injuries, pit bulls and Rottweilers are the main culprits.

    Experience absolutely colors our perception, and in this case I can’t help but be affected by what I’ve seen. I will never forget a young child I treated in the ER during my pediatric residency. She suffered severe facial lacerations and tears to her face after a pit bull attack in her local park.

  • Darrin Stephens

    TRISH KING, Director, Behavior & Training Dept. Marin Humane Society

    “There is no direct eye contact or very little direct eye contact. It
    is very quick and over with. Which is one reason why with pit bulls and
    rottweilers, we have problems. Because they’re bred to do direct eye contact and so they are off putting to other dogs and actually scary to other dogs.”

    The fourth undesirable characteristic – arousal or excitement – is
    actually the most problematic. Many bully dogs cannot seem to calm
    themselves down once they get excited. And once they get excited all
    their behaviors are exacerbated.

    Thus, if a dog is
    over-confident and has a tendency to body slam or mount, he or she will
    really crash into the other dog or person when he’s aroused, sometimes
    inadvertently causing injury. He may begin to play-bite, and then bite
    harder and harder and harder.

    When you try to stop the
    behavior, the dog often becomes even more “aggressive.” In this way,
    play can turn into aggression fairly quickly. Research on the brain has
    shown that excited play has exactly the same chemistry as extreme anger.
    This allows a play behavior to switch quickly into aggression. And,
    once the dog has become aggressive a few times, the switch is much
    easier.

    DIANE JESSUP, pit bull expert, breeder, former ACO

    “Jessup, the animal control officer in Olympia, uses two pit bulls to
    train police and animal control officers on surviving dogs attacks.
    Unlike dogs who are nippers and rippers, her pit bulls are typically “grippers” who bite down and hang onto their victims.”

    Jessup believes that much of dog behavior comes from their genes. “I
    truly believe that a dog is about 90% genetics,” says Jessup.
    on protection sports

    This difference in “sheepdog versus bulldog” mentality in a trainer is
    best understood when training the “out!” or release command. It is
    common practice for those training shepherds and sheepdog types to use
    force such as hard leash corrections or electric shock to get the dog to
    release the sleeve.

    Sadly, I had one young man come to me
    because a club trainer was slugging his little Am Staff female in the
    nose, till she bled, trying to get her to release the sleeve.

    She would not! And of course she would not! She was a good little
    bulldog, hanging on for dear life, just as her bull and bear baiting
    ancestors of old did.

    She was a super little gripping dog,
    who took the pain she experienced as just “part of the job” once her
    owner set her upon the sleeve. And this is the response from well bred
    pit bulldogs—to ignore pain while gripping. It is, after all, what they
    are bred for! Give me a bulldog like her, rather than one which will
    allow itself to be yanked off the sleeve due to pain.

    MICHAEL BURNS, Los Angeles Animal Control Lt.

    You have a dog that has aggressive tendencies enhanced through
    constant and incestuous breeding. If there are some recessive genes on
    the aggressive or psychotic side, they will make themselves manifest.

    They are different. There’s an absence of the normal sounds a dog
    makes when it attacks. It’s almost a workmanlike way they hold on in an
    attack. It’s a persistence I haven’t seen in any other breed.

    KURT LAPHAM, a field investigator for the West Coast Regional office of the Humane Society
    Most breeds do not multiple-bite. A pit bull attack is like a shark attack: He keeps coming back.

    DAVID GENDREGSKE, Clare County MI Animal Control Director
    “In my opinion they appeal to the most irresponsible pet owners and to younger people,” he said.

    “The younger people have no jobs to support the animal, or they have to
    move where animals aren’t allowed and (the dogs) end up here.” Certain
    people like pit bulls because they are intimidating, he said. “They want
    to scare people. It’s an intimidation thing.

    They’re number
    one with those being incarcerated. If there’s a dog left behind (when
    someone is sentenced to jail or prison), it’s always a pit bull,” he
    said. He cited the time a pit bull got out of a car and attacked a
    horse.

    He was pulled off, but he went back and grabbed the
    throat. He was pulled off again and again and went back after different
    parts of the horse. “What kind of a dog but a pit bull would do that?”
    he asked. “All dogs can bite but not with that ferocity. “ Some people
    will say that how a pit bull acts and reacts is dependent upon how the
    dog is raised, he said.

    “But he was raised to kill for
    centuries,” he said. “You can’t breed it out in one generation.” If the
    popularity of pit bulls is a fad, it’s a long term one, he said. “I keep
    seeing more and more pit bulls,” he said. “It’s getting worse.”

    Pit bulls, he said, are not good as a working dog, except for perhaps
    wild boar hunting. “And they’re not one of the smarter breeds,” he said,
    despite other’s beliefs that they are intelligent

    • separationcs

      Terrifying.

  • Darrin Stephens

    Wichita, Kansas

    In January 2009, the Wichita Department of Environmental Services
    released a number of pit bull statistics. The figures are based upon the
    Wichita Animal Control department’s investigation of 733 dog bites in
    2008.

    Included in the data are pit bulls encountered by the
    Wichita Police Department. In the 1-year period, 95% of police
    encounters with aggressive dogs were pit bulls.

    The report also showed that the percentage of pit bull encounters had
    increased from 66% in 2004 to 95% in 2008. Subsequently, four months
    after the release of this data, the City of Wichita enacted a mandatory
    pit bull sterilization law.

    55% of all dogs deemed dangerous were pit bulls (41 pit bull dogs deemed dangerous).

    34% of attacks and bites involved pit bull dogs (246 pit bull attacks/bites).

    28% of dogs found running at large were pit bulls (1,279 pit bulls found running loose).

    25% of dogs impounded were pit bulls dogs (1,575 pit bulls impounded).

    37% of all dogs euthanized were pit bull dogs (1,255 pit bulls euthanized).

    23% of dog complaints involved pit bull dogs (2,523 complaints involved pit bull dogs).

  • Darrin Stephens

    “The
    LA Times (and other advocates) are fond of mentioning that many pit
    bulls live without incident as gentle pets. These advocates ignore more
    compelling facts.

    321 humans have been killed or disfigured by dogs during calendar year 2013; 316 of those attacks were by pit bulls.

    16 of the attacks have caused human fatalities, 15 of those deaths were caused by pit bulls.***.

    California leads the nation in fatal pit bull attacks with 25% of the nation’s total.

    To omit this essential information in an editorial opinion on pit bulls is tantamount to a lie of omission.”

    Pit Bulls Lead ‘Bite’ Counts Across U.S. Cities and Counties.
    Dog Biting Incidents: 2008 to 2012.

    Animal control departments in at least 25 U.S. states report that pit
    bulls are biting more than all other dog breeds. These states include:
    Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Delaware, Florida, Georgia,
    Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Massachusetts, Maryland, Michigan, Nebraska,
    Nevada, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Rhode Island, Pennsylvania,
    Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia and Wisconsin.

    The oft-quoted
    myth by pro-pit bull groups that pit bulls “do not bite more than other
    breeds” is categorically false. In addition to leading bite counts, the
    pit bull bite is also the most damaging, inflicting permanent and
    disfiguring injury.

  • Darrin Stephens

    The pit bull drooler’s don’t get it, they are in effect demanding that they be able to walk around with a loaded.

    hand gun, round chambered, safety off with a hair trigger & that we all smile when they point it at us.

    Pit bulls or Pit bull cross, same difference, same outcome, same reality as to what they are.

    And all Pit bulls or restricted dogs including pit bull crosses by law should have leashes and Muzzles which they almost never have, this should become the law everywhere, and all to often you see them running around as such unmuzzled, this is an even greater problem then them being unleashed.

    Pit bulls and Pit bull crosses and others like mastiffs, Rotts etc. attack and kill and maim while normal dogs bite, that is the big difference in the outcome and should result in a completely different attitude towards these dogs and why they should be banned outright.

    The stats are very clear and accurate and show this reality even if you want to put your head in the sand, it still is what it is.

    Certain breeds like Pit bulls etc.are fundamentally evil in nature and action and do not deserve the freedom of action to carry out their DNA.

    “Pit bulls are different; they’re like wild animals,” says Alan Beck, director for the Center for the Human Animal Bond at Purdue University School of Veterinary Medicine, West Lafayette, IN. “They’re not suited for an urban environment. I believe we should open our eyes and take a realistic approach to pit bulls.”

    A 1993 Toronto study found pit bulls accounted for 1 percent of licensed dogs but 4 percent of bites. More ominous is a 2000 study by the Centers for Disease Control looking at 20 years of data on fatal dog attacks in the U.S.

    Of 238 such incidents in which the breed of the attacking dog was reported, “pit bull-type dogs” were involved in 32 percent of them while being 1% of the population.

    Pit Bulls should be banned from inside city limits anywhere.

  • Darrin Stephens

    In Calgary, by Bill Bruce’s own admission and documentation, pit bulls lead the serious bite count with 13% of the city’s serious bites attributable to pit bulls, yet pit bulls account for less than 1% of the city’s dogs.

    In fact, pit bulls are responsible for nearly as many serious bites (13%) as the ENTIRE sporting breeding category (15%), which includes all of the most popular breeds (Labs, Goldens, Poodles, Spaniels, etc) and houses 70% of Calgary’s dogs.

    Why aren’t these breeds attacking in the face of irresponsible ownership?

    An example of why leashing and licensing laws don’t work to solve the breed-specific problem of pit bulls:

    Pitbull supporters always point to Calgary Model as the perfect solution when dealing with dangerous dogs. The city introduced its responsible pet ownership bylaw in 2006.

    Calgary’s bylaw department emphasizes responsible pet ownership through intensive licensing, hefty fines and owner education.

    Has their model worked? The statistics from the past four years would indicate a resounding “NO”. For the past four years dog bites have risen steadily every year, and over 350% in the past 4 years, from 58 in 2009 to 203 in 2012.

    And In 2010 Pit bulls led the ‘bite’ count. Meanwhile in Toronto, four years after implementing Breed Bans, dog bites were down 32%, from 486 to 329.

    Bites in Toronto blamed on the four banned breeds fell sharply, from 71 in 2005 to only six in 2010.

    Considering these breeds regularly inflict the most serious damage, this is an undeniable win for the citizens of Toronto.

  • Darrin Stephens

    Merritt Clifton Editor OF Animal People:

    Of the 4,558 dogs involved in fatal and disfiguring attacks on humans occurring in the U.S. & Canada since September 1982, when I began logging the data, 2,923 (64%) were pit bulls; 541 were Rottweilers; 3,696 were of related molosser breeds, including pit bulls, Rottweilers, mastiffs, boxers, and their mixes.

    Of the 523 human fatalities, 269 were killed by pit bulls; 84 were killed by Rottweilers; 392 (75%) were killed by molosser breeds.

    Of the 2,593 people who were disfigured, 1,753 (67%) were disfigured by pit bulls; 319 were disfigured by Rottweilers; 2,169 (83%) were disfigured by molosser breeds.

    Pit bulls–exclusive of their use in dogfighting–also inflict about 10 times as many fatal and disfiguring injuries on other pets and livestock as on humans, a pattern unique to the pit bull class.

    Surveys of dogs offered for sale or adoption indicate that pit bulls and pit mixes are less than 6% of the U.S. dog population; molosser breeds, all combined, are 9%.

  • Darrin Stephens

    Last
    Summer, Riverside County supervisors unanimously passed an ordinance
    requiring pit bulls older than 4 months in unincorporated areas of the
    county to be spayed or neutered. Registered breeders, law enforcement
    and therapy dogs are exempt from the ordinance, which takes effect next
    month.

    In 2010, San Bernardino County supervisors passed a similar ordinance for unincorporated areas of the county,
    such as Mentone. Owners of non-sterilized pit bulls can be fined $100
    for the first offense, $200 for the second and $300 for subsequent
    offenses.

    Highland and Yucaipa adopted the same ordinance,
    according to Brian Cronin, chief of the county’s animal control
    division, which handles animal control in those two cities.

    The San Bernardino County ordinance said pit bull breeds account for
    about 20 percent of the dogs at animal shelters and are put down more
    often than any other breed.

    Cronin emailed figures showing
    the county’s intake of pit bulls has decreased 28 percent since the
    ordinance took effect and that euthanization rates have dropped by 56
    percent.

    The ordinance was passed to reduce the number of dogs destroyed at taxpayer expense, Cronin said.

  • Darrin Stephens

    In a discussion of the Denver ban, Assistant City Attorney Kory Nelson recently told the San Francisco Chronicle that:

    “Since 1989, when that city instituted a pit bull ban, ‘we haven’t had one serious pit bull attack,’ said Kory Nelson, a Denver assistant city attorney. His city’s assertion that ‘pit bulls are more dangerous than other breeds of dog’ has withstood legal challenges, he said.

    ‘We were able to prove there’s a difference between pit bulls and other breeds of dogs that make pit bulls more dangerous,’ he said.”

    Sources: Denver Post

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    Toronto:

    In a November 2011, public health statistics published by Global Toronto showed that pit bull bites dropped dramatically after Ontario adopted the Dog Owners Liability Act in 2005, an act that banned pit bulls:

    The number of dog bites reported in Toronto has fallen since a ban on pit bulls took effect in 2005, public health statistics show.

    A total of 486 bites were recorded in 2005. That number fell generally in the six years following, to 379 in 2010.

    Provincial laws that banned ‘pit bulls,’ defined as pit bulls, Staffordshire terriers, American Staffordshire terriers, American pit bull terriers and dogs resembling them took effect in August 2005. Existing dogs were required to be sterilized, and leashed and muzzled in public.

    Bites in Toronto blamed on the four affected breeds fell sharply, from 71 in 2005 to only six in 2010. This accounts for most of the reduction in total bites.

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    Salina, KS

    Rose Base, director of the Salina Animal Shelter who lobbied for the ordinance, told the Salina Journal:

    The ordinance has made a difference, she said. Records at the Salina Animal Shelter indicate there were 24 reported pit bull bites in 2003 and 2004, and only five since — none from 2009 to present.

    Salina has 62 registered pit bulls, Base said. Before the ordinance she guessed there were “close to 300.” Since the first of this year three of the registered pit bulls have died of old age.

    “We definitely haven’t had the severity of bites that we had in the past,” Base said. “Our community has been somewhat safer because of the law that was passed

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    Prince George’s County, MD

    Prince George’s County passed a pit bull ban in 1996. In August 2009, Rodney Taylor, associate director of the county’s Animal Management Group, said that the number of pit bull biting incidents has fallen:

    “Taylor said that during the first five to seven years of the ban, animal control officials would encounter an average of 1,200 pit bulls a year but that in recent years that figure has dropped by about half. According to county statistics, 36 pit bull bites, out of 619 total dog bites, were recorded in 2008, down from 95 pit bull bites, out of a total of 853, in 1996.”

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    Salina KS (a second article)

    Note that they admit that the pit bull ban did not reduce the number of bites, but it did reduce the severity of bites reported by all breeds. Proof that when pit bull deniers find a jurisdiction that banned pit bulls, but reported no decrease in overall bites, is a moot point. Its death and dismemberment we are focusing on, not bite counts.

    In the monthly city newsletter, In Touch, published in September 2006, the City of Salina reported that the pit bull ban adopted in 2005 significantly reduced pit bull biting incidents in just a 12 month period.

    The number of pit bull bites depicted in the “Salina Pit Bull Bites Reported” graph shows 2002 with 13 pit bull bites, 2003 with 11 pit bull bites, 2004 with 15 pit bull bites and 2005 with only one bite. The newsletter notes that “animal bites reported have remained constant, but the severity of bites have decreased dramatically” since the enactment of the pit bull ban.

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    Springfield, MO

    In April 2008, the Springfield-Greene County Health Department released data to a local TV station – following the City of Springfield’s adoption of a 2006 pit bull ban:

    “The Springfield-Greene County Health Department reports that dog bites and vicious dog complaints are declining since the implementation of the Pit Bull Ordinance in the City of Springfield two years ago. In 2005 the health department fielded 18 vicious dog complaints, but only eight in 2007. Bites were down from 102 in 2005 to 87 in 2007.”

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    Washington

    In 2008, the City of Wapato passed an ordinance that bans new pit bulls, rottweilers and mastiffs. Nine months after its adoption, in March 2009, Wapato Police Chief Richard Sanchez reported successful results:

    “Nine months into the ban and police calls about vicious dogs have been cut in half. The Wapato Police tell Action News they’ve gone from 18 reports in January, February and March of last year to seven so far in ’09. “Seven calls in three months… that’s nothing,” says Chief Richard Sanchez, Wapato Police Department.

    Chief Sanchez credits local cooperation for the decline of dangerous dogs.”

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    Rhode Island

    When the City of Woonsocket was debating a pit bull ordinance in June 2009, the animal control supervisor in Pawtucket, John Holmes, spoke about the enormous success of Pawtucket’s 2003 pit bull ban:

    “Holmes says he predicted that it would take two years for Pawtucket to experience the full benefit of the law after it was passed, but the results were actually apparent in half the time.

    “It’s working absolutely fantastic,” said Holmes. “We have not had a pit bull maiming in the city since December of 2004.”

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    Per section 8-55 of Denvers pit bull ban:

    A pit bull, is defined as any dog that is an APBT, Am Staf Terrier, Staff Bull Terrier, or any dog displaying the majority of physical traits of anyone (1) or more of the above breeds, or any dog exhibiting those distinguishing characteristics which substantially conform to the standards set by the AKC or UKC for any of the above breed.

    Over the course of 22 years, the Denver ban has withstood numerous battles in state and federal courts. It has been used as a model for over 600 USA cities that legislate pit bulls, as well as US Navy, Air Force, Marine and Army bases ( so much for Sgt Stubby).

    without it, we’d see just what we see in Miss E’s lame replies. Every pit owner would claim their land shark was anything but a pit bull.

    Miami Dade county voted 66% to keep their pit bull ban, just as it is worded, last year.

  • Darrin Stephens

    Over 600 Cities, Towns & Counties in the US currently have BSL against pit bull type dogs.

    Country’s,

    Cities, county’s, Provinces, Military Services & Towns where Pit

    Bulls type Dogs are Banned or severely restricted:

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/5649

    Animal Planet

    Pit Bulls Already Banned in a Dozen Countries

    By Terrence McCoy Wed., Feb. 27 2013

    Pit bulls have been banned the world over as well as 0ver 600 cities, towns and counties in the US alone.

    The prohibition on the pit bull type dog wouldn’t be anything unusual.

    In 1989, Miami may have been one of the first communities to ban pit bulls — but it sure hasn’t been the last, raising questions as to whether it’s only a matter of time before every municipality imposes some sort of regulation on the animal.

    Already, more than a dozen countries have banned pit bulls, making it, quite possibly, the most regulated and feared dog in the canine world.

    Composed from various online resources, here’s a breakdown of the bans and regulations:

    Countries that have enacted regulation on pit bulls (or some deviation):

    **In 1991, Singapore prohibited the entry of pit bulls into the country.

    **In 1993, the Netherlands banned pit bulls.

    **In 1997, Poland enacted legislation enforcing pit bull owners to display “clear warning signs” and keep the animal behind reinforced fencing.

    **In 2000, France banned pit bulls. The goal was to let the breed “die out.”

    **In 2001, Germany banned pit bulls.

    **In 2001, Puerto Rico banned pit bulls.

    **In 2003, New Zealand banned the importation of pit bulls.

    **In 2004, Italy banned pit bulls.

    **In 2009, Australia prohibited the imports of pit bulls.

    **In 2009, Ecuador banned pit bulls as pets.

    **In 2010, Denmark banned pit bulls and pit bull breeding.

    **In 2014, Venezuela will ban pit bulls.

    Nationwide, a ban on pit bulls is also far from exceptional.

    Cities that have laid down some sort of legislation:

    Sioux City, Iowa

    Council Bluffs, Iowa

    Independence, Missouri

    Royal City, Washington

    Denver, Colorado

    Springfield, Missouri

    Youngstown, Ohio;

    Melvindale, Michigan

    Livingston County, Michigan.

  • Darrin Stephens

    From the CDC (1998 report, page 4):

    “Despite these limitations and concerns

    (about identifying the exact ‘breed’ of pit bull type dog responsible for a

    killing), the data indicate that Rottweilers and pit bull-type dogs accounted

    for 67% of human DBRF in the United States between 1997 and 1998.

    It is extremely unlikely that they accounted for anywhere near 60% of dogs in the

    United States during that same period and, thus, there appears to be a

    breed-specific problem with fatalities.”

    Results of mandatory breed-specific S/N in SF: success in San Francisco, where in just eight years there was a 49% decline in the number of pit-bulls impounded, a 23% decline in the number of pit-bulls euthanized, and an 81% decline in the number of pit-bulls involved in fatal and disfiguring attacks.

    Ed Boks, Executive director, Yavapai Humane Society (responsible Jan 2004 as director City Center for Animal Care & Control in NYC for trying to rename pit bulls New Yorkies; is pb owner)

    Pit bull type dogs represent 3000% the actuarial risk compared to other types of dogs.

    Insurance companies will have calculated the risks the other listed breeds represent based on what they’ve had to pay out through the years.

    This isn’t ‘prejudice’, this is cold statistical reality. Actuarial realities don’t yield to sentiment or a feeling of entitlement — they just are what they are.

  • Darrin Stephens

    Articles, Truths, Facts & News to be Publicly shared-about-the-Horror-that-is-a-Pit-Bull-type-Mutant-Undog

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Articles-to-be-shared-about-the-Horror-that-is-a-Pit-Bull-type-Mutant-Undog/504783452894089?success=1
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    The Truth of the Pit Bull type dogs genetics and the reality of the
    outcome of those genetics which are mauling’s and killings like these:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhvYMRKjNlw
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    Beyond the Interview: Father of Child Killed by Babysitter’s Pit Bulls
    Speaks Out After Attack ‘Believing the Myth is What Left Us Without a
    Son’.

    http://blog.dogsbite.org/2013/07/beyond-the-interview-essay-of-a-fatal-pit-bull-mauling.html
    *******************************************************************
    The Pit bull type dogs truth and genetic reality, watch and learn:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mt6FL6z1Nck&feature=share
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    Fatal Pit Bull Attacks
    Stop the Maulings
    A growing archive of U.S. fatal pit bull attacks dating back to 1858

    http://www.fatalpitbullattacks.com/
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    Everything you ever wanted to know about the views of Pit Nutter, Pit Bull type dog apologists but were afraid to ask.!!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=za7n_KNadMI
    *******************************************************************

    This speaks volumes and in a nutshell reflects the reality of what
    animal shelters are doing throughout North America where vicious pit
    bull type dogs are misrepresented as family lassie or rin tin tin type
    dogs.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6s0NCgKKkk
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    Country’s, Cities, county’s, Provinces, Military Services & Towns
    where Pit Bulls type Dogs are Banned or severely restricted:

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/56495216/Estimated-U-S-Cities-Counties-States-and-Military-Facilities-with-Breed-Specific-Pit-Bull-Laws

  • Darrin Stephens

    Council Bluffs, Iowa.

    Pit bulls are not only problematic in large cities; they threaten
    mid-sized cities and small towns as well. Located in the heartland,
    Council Bluffs, Iowa has about 60,000 citizens.

    After a
    series of devastating attacks, beginning in 2003, Council Bluffs joined
    over 600 U.S. cities and began regulating pit bulls.

    The results of the Council Bluffs pit bull ban, which began January 1, 2005, show the positive effects such legislation can have on public safety in just a few years time:1.

    Council Bluffs: Pit Bull Bite Statistics.

    Year Pit Bull Bites % of All Bites.
    2004 29 23%.
    2005 12 10% (year ban enacted).
    2006 6 4%.
    2007 2 2%.
    2008 0 0%.
    2009 0 0%.
    2010 1 1%.
    2011 0 0%.

    http://www.dogsbite.org/legislating-dangerous-dogs.php

  • John1258

    Darrin, Stop it. Please. While I agree with your general views… your incessant spamming of these threads accomplishes NOTHING constructive. You post so much garbage, all at one time, that people don’t even read what you post. Really. You are not helping.

    • Darrin Stephens

      The Pit Nutters exposed credo:

      Media manipulation is their watchword, their attempts to give their mutants a make over can not hide the evil in their eyes nor the moral stench that exudes from their being, pit bulls are one of satan’s more natural creations, a set of horns and pitchfork would have been a far more appropriate visual reality presentation then the cute pitty poo farcical misrepresentations they present to the public.

  • Darrin Stephens

    Pit bulls are working dogs and the work they do is fighting,we don’t need them or the kind of people living near us.

    Pit Bull type dogs kill, maim and seriously injure more people each year than all other type dogs combined. This means that one type dog that makes up less than 5% of the dog population kills more than 60% of all people who die in dog attack related fatalities.

    Pit Bull type dogs are notorious for actions unique to these type dogs.

    Pit Bulls turn on and attack their owners 6 times more often than other dogs.

    Pit Bulls escape containment 14 times more often than other dogs.

    A persons relative risk of death in a Pit Bull attack is 2500 times higher than a persons relative risk of death in a Lab attack.

    Pit bulls kill one person every 2 to 3 weeks in the US alone.

    Pit Bulls dismember a body part on average once every 5.4 days in the US.

    Pit Bulls once they start an attack will not stop even when subjected to intense pain in many cases.

    Pit Bull type dogs attack in the manner of many wild animals in that they grab, hold and shake the victim to do even more damage similar to the way large cats, sharks and other predators do.

    There have been several studies done over several decades and while the opinions of the authors may differ the numbers are generally consistent in proving that Pit Bulls kill more than all other type dogs.

  • Jason Fraser

    Well, Boo-Hoo!

  • ed newell

    Ironically I will pick up a pair of sisters tomorrow morning and they will be living with us till the person they live with gets outa the hospital. I ‘ll post pics of em sleeping with and following my kid around.

    • separationcs

      That’s not irony; that is irresponsible and stupid.

    • Darrin Stephens

      Pit bull type dogs killed 16 children last year and 5 already this year in the US alone, think about that, after you give your head a shake.

      Think about your child first instead of some mutant undog.!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Karen

      Two pit bull siblings and a kid:
      http://blog.dogsbite.org/2013/07/beyond-the-interview-essay-of-a-fatal-pit-bull-mauling.html

      Do you let your kids play around loaded guns too? Do you also let them ride unrestrained in the car? Do you also allow them to play unsupervised around the pool?

      • ed newell

        2 kids and 2 border collies and the male bc is alpha and usually sends the girls home marked if they don’t accept his alpha.
        you ever see a border collie kill? its a caution. my males killed yotes 20% bigger than him. he kills just like a wolf. slashes em open disembowels them.

        don’t you teach your kids how to shoot? about guns? i live on the river i taught my kids to swim as infants.they’ve been driving 4 wheelers since before they started school.
        i am a stickler about seat belts and car seats though and so are they

  • separationcs

    “But he was raised to kill for centuries,” he said. “You can’t breed it out in one generation.” If the popularity of pit bulls is a fad, it’s a long term one, he said. “I keep seeing more and more pit bulls,” he said. “It’s getting worse.”

  • Dennis Baker

    Never confuse a pit bull advocate for a animal welfare advocate it just simply does not add up.
    The animals killed included about 12,000 dogs, 8,000 cats, 6,000 hooved animals, and 17,000 other small domestic animals, primarily poultry.

    The seriously injured included about 12,400 dogs, 4,000 cats, and 1,700 hooved animals. Few small mammals and poultry survived reported dog attacks.

    Pit bull…s inflicted 99% of the total fatal attacks on other animals (43,000); 96% of the fatal attacks on other dogs (11,520); 95% of the fatal attacks on livestock (5,700) and on small mammals and poultry (16,150); and 94% of the fatal attacks on cats (11,280).

    About 30,000 pit bulls were involved in attacks on other animals, many of them killing multiple other animals.

    There are about 3.2 million pit bulls in the U.S. at any given time, according to the annual ANIMAL PEOPLE surveys of dogs offered for sale or adoption via online classified ads.

    Thus in 2013 about one pit bull in 107 killed or seriously injured another animal, compared with about one dog in 50,000 of other breeds.

    Complete details of the year-long epidemiological survey that produced these estimates will appear in the January/February edition of ANIMAL PEOPLE.

    Merritt Clifton has added the following clarifying comments: The forthcoming ANIMAL PEOPLE study is taking an epidemiological approach to estimating the dog attack & pit bull attack tolls on other animals precisely to address the underreporting factor. Figuring out how to compensate for non-reporting is among the most common problems in epidemiological research, and we have used standard methods for doing it.

    More info will posted here as it becomes available. In the meantime, there are many interesting articles to be found at the web site – Animal People CBS News.

  • Dennis Baker

    33 People dead by dog attack in 2013.
    Pit bull type dogs killed thirty of them. sixteen of the twenty-nine dead are children.

    Stars indicate people killed by a ‘family’ pit bull – ones that had
    been raised and cherished as an indoor pet, ‘never showed aggression
    before’, and knew the victim.

    Child fatalities by pit bull type dog (16):
    Christian Gormanous – 4 yrs old Montgomery County, TX
    …Isaiah Aguilar – 2 yrs old Sabinal, TX
    Ryan Maxwell – 7 yrs old ** Galesburg, IL.
    Dax Borchardt – 14 mos old ** Walworth, WI.
    Monica Laminack – 21 mos old ** Ellabelle, GA.
    Tyler Jett – 7 yrs old Callaway, FL.
    Jordyn Arndt – 4 yrs old ** Prairie City, IA.
    Beau Rutledge – 2 yrs old ** Fulton County, GA.
    Ayden Evans- 5 yrs old ** Jessieville, AR.
    Nephi Selu – 6 yrs old ** Union City, CA.
    Arianna Jolee Merrbach – 5 yrs old Effingham, SC.
    Daniel (surname as yet not revealed) – 2 yrs old (Gilbert, Arizona) **
    Samuel Eli Zamudio – 2 yrs old** Colton, CA
    Jordan Ryan– 5 yrs old Baker city, Oregon
    Levi Watson-Bradford-4 years old** White County, Arkansas
    Jah’niyah White – 2 years old ** Chicago, Ill

    Adult fatalities by pit bull type (13):
    Betty Todd – 65 yrs old ** Hodges, SC
    Elsie Grace – 91 yrs old ** Hemet, CA
    Claudia Gallardo – 38 yrs old Stockton, CA.
    Pamela Devitt – 63 yrs old Littlerock, CA.
    Carlton Freeman – 80 yrs old Harleyville, SC.
    Linda Oliver – 63 yrs old Dayton, TX.
    James Harding – 62 yrs old -Baltimore, MD
    chased into traffic by two attacking pit bulls
    Juan Campos – 96 yrs old Katy, Texas.
    Terry Douglass 56 years old. **Baltimore, MD
    Katherine Atkins-25 years old ** Kernersville, NC
    Nga Woodhead-65 years old Spanaway, WA.
    Joan Kappen, 75 years old Hot Springs Ark
    Michal Nelson, 41 years old Valencia County, New Mexico **

    (1 non-pit type killing) [Rachel Honabarger - 35 yrs old - mauled to death by her own GSD mix] Coshocton, OH.

    (1 husky-mix killing, unknown if the other half of the dog was pit bull) [Jordan Lee Reed – 5 yrs old] Kotzebue, AK

    (1 Shiba Inu killing) Mia Gibson – age 3 months, of Gibson, OH – mauled to death by family Shiba Inu.

    Three of the pit bull type dogs were BULL mastiffs, ie 40% pit-fighting bulldog.
    If 27 of 33 dead were killed by pit bull attack, that’s 82% dead by pit
    attack, 9% dead by ‘molosser’, 3% by some kind of GSD mix, 3% by a
    husky + possibly pit mix, 3% by Shiba Inu.

    If you count the
    pit-mix mastiffs as pit bull types, that’s 91% killed by attacking pit
    bull types. Pit types are only about 5% of the entire dog population.
    The man who ran into traffic kept pit bulls himself. He knew perfectly
    well what the two stranger pit bulls that were chasing him would do if
    they caught him, so he preferred to risk a swift death by oncoming car.

    534 maimed by pit type dogs 2013 (as of November.28)
    All easily confirmed by a quick google search of the names listed…

    • ed newell
      • Darrin Stephens

        When
        anyone is evaluating research the first thing that should be noted is
        who paid for it. The second thing is who actually did the research, who
        do they work for, who signs the paychecks of these people.

        In the case of the NCRC (National Canine Research Council)(http://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/) the research is paid for by extreme pit bull advocacy, the AFF (Animal Farms Foundation). Who did the research?

        A professional breed specific advocate, Karen Delise,
        ( http://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/about-us/staff/)
        she is an employee of the AFF
        ( http://animalfarmfoundation.org/) and is paid by Jane Berkey.

        (http://cravendesires.blogspot.com/…/fuck-you-jane…)
        (http://andfostermakesfive.com/…/animal-farm-foundation…/)

        When Karen is unable to identify a pit bull from a photo she sends the photo to Amy Marder

        (http://abrionline.org/expert.php?id=80)

        DVM, another individual closely tied to the AFF.

        “Research”
        created by and funded by the AFF should be given the same attention as
        the “research” funded and completed by product defense companies paid by
        Big Tobacco who went looking for “scientists” to deny the connection
        between smoking and lung cancer.

        The
        AFF is in competition with the tobacco lobby for shameless self
        promotion. Unfortunately, the AFF has a LOT of money and uses it to pay
        lobbyists to influence legislators.

        • ed newell

          oh wait darrin did you just try to claim it was a biased source? thats amusing considering your source. come on out i’ll have the 6 year old lil girl introduce you to the killers. she’ll hold em back you’ll be safe

          • Darrin Stephens

            The Pit Nutters exposed credo:

            Media manipulation is their watchword, their attempts to give their mutants a make over can not hide the evil in their eyes nor the moral stench that exudes from their being, pit bulls are one of satan’s more natural creations, a set of horns and pitchfork would have been a far more appropriate visual reality presentation then the cute pitty poo farcical misrepresentations they present to the public.

      • Darrin Stephens

        The truth about The American Veterinary Medical Association’s position on pit bull sterilization and animal welfare issues.

        The AVMA position against legislation to mandate sterilization of pit bulls is subsumed within the assertion that, “Banning specific breeds to control dog bite injuries ignores the scope and nature of the problem and is unlikely to protect a community’s citizens.” This claim is, first of all, blatantly false.

        In truth, the few large U.S. cities which prohibit or restrict possession of pit bulls have had markedly fewer dog attack fatalities and disfigurements over the past 30 years than any others of comparable size. Also of note is that these cities––San Francisco, Denver, Miami, and New York City––impound and kill just a fraction as many pit bulls as those without breed-specific laws.

        Bluntly put, the AVMA appears to oppose breed-specific legislation by way of pandering to the same “fanciers” who popularized “cosmetic” surgeries and were long a big part of many veterinarians’ clientele, even if they didn’t have many dogs neutered.

        Though dogs have bred prolifically without human help since long before the rise of human civilization, canine obstetrics has become a lucrative branch of the veterinary industry, for example because dogs often need help to birth breeds with disproportionately large heads.

  • ed newell

    A
    6-week-old girl died Saturday night after she was mauled by the
    family’s dog, according to the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department.

    The
    attack occurred in the girl’s home in the 15500 block of Fellowship
    Street in Valinda, an unincorporated area between La Puente and West
    Covina, Deputy Cruz Solis said.

    An
    uncle baby-sitting the newborn left the child on a bed unattended while
    he went to the kitchen to prepare a bottle for her, Solis said. When he
    returned, he found the family’s Pomeranian dog on the bed attacking the
    baby, Solis said.

    The man freed the child from the dog and called
    for help. The baby died shortly after at Queen of the Valley Hospital
    in West Covina, according to Solis.

  • ed newell
  • Christina Lee

    If you want to kill millions of dogs that “look like Pit Bulls” and have them banned nationwide, the least you can do is educate yourselves. I look at the comments in this post and the first thing that comes to my mind is Nazi Germany. We should be holding irresponsible dog owners accountable if their dogs are not trained, socialized, and spayed/neutered. What ever happened to personal accountability? There are thousands of Pit Bulls that are Search and Rescue dogs, Therapy dogs, and Service dogs. If you go to a website that says Pit Bulls account for only 5% to 6% of the total dog population in the U.S but are responsible for over 70% of dog bite cases, then common sense will tell you their statistics are flawed. I work in rescue and all you have to do is walk through the shelters and know the numbers are much higher (closer to 30%-40%) Here are the statistics: http://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/dogbites/medically-attended-dog-bites/

    • AlRussell

      You should really Google Godwin’s Law.

    • Darrin Stephens

      Marines tighten leash on pit bull policy.

      By TERI WEAVER.

      Stars and Stripes.

      Published: October 5, 2009.

      Each
      year, dogs bite 4.7 million Americans, according to Gail Hayes, a
      spokeswoman for the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. On
      average, 386,000 of those bitten go to the emergency room. About 16
      people die, according to the CDC. The CDC does not keep statistical data
      on bites by breeds, Hayes said.

      TOKYO — Last year, a pit bull fatally attacked a 3-year-old boy at Camp Lejeune, N.C.

      In
      August, a pit bull mix at Yokota Air Base in Japan climbed out of its
      enclosure at the base kennel, killed one dog and wounded another.

      During the past year, military bases and privatized military housing began banning certain dog breeds and types.

      Now,
      the Marine Corps has issued the first worldwide policy banning pit
      bulls, Rottweilers, wolf hybrids and any dogs with “dominant traits of
      aggression” from all U.S. Marine Corps bases and housing facilities.

      The
      policy, issued in August, allows Marines and families currently living
      in base housing to keep their pets if they apply for a waiver by Oct. 10
      and if their dogs pass a behavior test. That waiver will last only as
      long as the family remains at the same base or until Sept. 30, 2012, at
      which time all Marine housing and Marine-controlled housing should be
      free of any full or mixed breeds considered pit bulls, Rottweilers and
      wolf hybrids, according to the policy.

      The
      policy comes as more local governments and public housing facilities
      are instituting similar bans, said Daisy Okas, a spokeswoman for the
      American Kennel Club in New York.

      “We’re
      seeing breed-specific bans pretty regularly,” she said. “We’re very
      against it. We look at how a dog behaves. It’s a frustrating topic.”

      It can also be a terrifying one, some say.

      “It’s
      pretty horrifying to see the jaws of one of these dogs ripping into
      you,” said Colleen Lynn, who was attacked by a pit bull two years ago
      and now runs a Web site, http://www.dogsbite.org, dedicated to tracking attacks. “It never goes away.”

      Marines
      living on a base where another service controls housing will continue
      to follow that base’s rules. On Okinawa, where housing for all services
      is controlled by the Air Force, Marines may keep their dogs in family
      housing, at least for now, 18th Air Wing spokesman Ed Gulick said last
      week. The base is reviewing the policy, however.

      Tiffany
      Jackson works for Marine Corps Community Services on Okinawa and
      volunteers with the Okinawan American Animal Rescue Society, a series of
      foster homes for abandoned pets in the military community there.

      Currently the network is caring for 30 dogs and 30 cats. Jackson is the only one who will take pit bulls.

      She
      can care for three abandoned pit bulls at a time, and her house is
      currently full. Many dogs she sees had owners who wanted the dog as a
      token rather than a pet. That neglect, she says, leaves both their
      bodies and their temperament in need of much care.

      “Yes,
      it’s an aggressive dog,” Jackson said. “It takes a lot of patience and
      trust. It’s a step-by-step process. They learn you’re not there to beat
      them.”

      She’s been able to find new homes for all the dogs she’s cared for in the past.

      Even
      though the ban might not affect Okinawa Marines, Jackson and her fellow
      volunteers are worried about a wave of abandoned dogs as news of the
      policy spreads. When asked what the Marine Corps is doing to discourage
      abandoned dogs, a Marine spokesman said that would be up to each base
      commander.

      “I
      think the calls will come more,” Jackson said of dogs needing homes.
      “We have already talked about it. And we don’t know how we’re going to
      handle that.”

      Waiver application deadline Oct. 10

      Policies and changes.

      MARINES

      Under
      the Marines’ rules, anyone seeking family housing after Aug. 11 may not
      house a Rottweiler, pit bull or wolf hybrid with them, according to a
      Marines spokesman. Anyone in family housing before Aug. 11 with those
      dogs must apply for a waiver by Oct. 10.

      The
      dog then must pass a “nationally recognized temperament test” by a
      certified tester at the owner’s expense, the policy states. The waiver
      must be approved by base commanders.

      Owners of banned dogs will still be able to bring their pets on base for veterinary care, the policy states.

      The
      ban covers mixed breeds, and it will be up to a military or civilian
      veterinarian to determine classification if registry papers do not
      exist, according the Marine spokesman. Installation commanders may ask
      for a base wide exemption from the policy, though that had not happened
      as of the middle of last week, the spokesman said.

      ARMY

      Early
      this year, the Army endorsed a similar dog ban at its privately run
      housing facilities, according to William Costlow, a spokesman for U.S.
      Army Installation Management Command.

      There is no ban for Army family housing in.

      traditional on-base settings, Army spokesmen said.

      NAVY

      The
      Navy’s policy allows that certain breeds may be prohibited, though
      local commanders have jurisdiction, according to Navy spokeswoman
      Rachelle Logan.

      AIR FORCE

      The
      Air Force allows each base commander to decide on the issue, and some
      have banned the same breeds, according to Air Force spokesman Gary
      Strasburg.

    • Darrin Stephens

      Wednesday, November 5, 2008

      LawDogsUSA, Pit Bull Detection Dog Program, Shuts Down

      October 2008 Closure Notice

      Olympia, WA – Back in April, we reported that a handful of pit bulls seized from the Pima County dogfighting raid were chosen to be “rehabilitated” as detection dogs. Diane Jessup, the owner of LawDogsUSA, was the recipient of these dogs. In October, Jessup shut down LawDogsUSA due to lack of interest from the “pit bull community” and lack of adequate funding.

      “I had dreamed that LawDogsUSA would attract the best and brightest in the pit bull community and be able to grow larger than just me.

      While I received fantastic support from a few, unfortunately the support and funding necessary to continue the program in a meaningful way was not forthcoming.”

      Fate of the Pima Dogs

      The Pima County dogs did not work out either. She had selected three dogs for the detection program: Pima, Tucson and Arizona. Jessup writes on her website (please scroll to the bottom of the page titled: Update August 2008):

      “It is with deep regret that I report that “Tucson” (the male) was found to have developed uncontrollable dog aggression. With no socialization or training to channel his drive during his critical period (21 days to 16 weeks) this pup would never….”

      “Both dogs developed a very aggressive form of demodex mange – common in inbred dogs with compromised immune systems – and were being treated for that when I evaluated them for structural soundness. Both girls were suffering from severe…”

      It appears she euthanized all three dogs. Interestingly, Jessup does not support “no-kill” or dumping pit bulls into “sanctuaries,” which she compares to “above ground pet cemeteries.”

      She writes that the practice “amounts to a boarding kennel” and is the “height of disrespect for our noble companions.” She feels that euthanasia in her own arms is the most humane option.

      http://blog.dogsbite.org/2008/11/lawdogs.html

    • Darrin Stephens

      Here’s what dog behaviorist Dr. Radcliffe Robins has to say:

      “Temperament is 100% genetic; it is inherited, and fixed at the moment of the dog’s fertilization/conception/birth.

      Temperament in the dog cannot be eliminated nor transformed from one type to another.

      It cannot change during the dog’s lifetime. It is the permanent mental/neurological characteristic of the individual dog.

      Environment, socialization or training can MODIFY the expression of an individual dog’s temperament, but they cannot transform it nor eliminate it.

      The dog will die with the temperament with which it was born.”

    • Darrin Stephens

      When anyone is evaluating research the first thing that should be noted is who paid for it. The second thing is who actually did the research, who do they work for, who signs the paychecks of these people.

      In the case of the NCRC (National Canine Research Council)(http://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/) the research is paid for by extreme pit bull advocacy, the AFF (Animal Farms Foundation). Who did the research?

      A professional breed specific advocate, Karen Delise,

      ( http://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/about-us/staff/)

      she is an employee of the AFF

      ( http://animalfarmfoundation.org/) and is paid by Jane Berkey.

      (http://cravendesires.blogspot.com/…/fuck-you-jane…)

      (http://andfostermakesfive.com/…/animal-farm-foundation…/)

      When Karen is unable to identify a pit bull from a photo she sends the photo to Amy Marder

      (http://abrionline.org/expert.php?id=80)

      DVM, another individual closely tied to the AFF.

      “Research” created by and funded by the AFF should be given the same attention as the “research” funded and completed by product defense companies paid by Big Tobacco who went looking for “scientists” to deny the connection between smoking and lung cancer.

      The AFF is in competition with the tobacco lobby for shameless self promotion. Unfortunately, the AFF has a LOT of money and uses it to pay lobbyists to influence legislators.

    • Darrin Stephens

      The reality is that police and military everywhere refuse to have anything to do with a pit bull type dog due it it’s inherent instability and likelyhood of attacking innocent handlers and passersby, that 6% of all dogs carry out over 70% of all horrific and killing attacks show you that the type of dog is a violent creature that needs to become extinct.

      They are not used for search and rescue either, they are only good for killing.

      That any shelter anywhere is composed of a third to half of pit bull type dogs when it is 6% of the total dog population proves that it is disproportunatly being dumped left right and center after demonstrating the danger that it is inherently due to it’s genetic breeding and truth.

    • Darrin Stephens

      The truth about The American Veterinary Medical Association’s position on pit bull sterilization and animal welfare issues.

      The AVMA position against legislation to mandate sterilization of pit bulls is subsumed within the assertion that, “Banning specific breeds to control dog bite injuries ignores the scope and nature of the problem and is unlikely to protect a community’s citizens.” This claim is, first of all, blatantly false.

      In truth, the few large U.S. cities which prohibit or restrict possession of pit bulls have had markedly fewer dog attack fatalities and disfigurements over the past 30 years than any others of comparable size. Also of note is that these cities––San Francisco, Denver, Miami, and New York City––impound and kill just a fraction as many pit bulls as those without breed-specific laws.

      Bluntly put, the AVMA appears to oppose breed-specific legislation by way of pandering to the same “fanciers” who popularized “cosmetic” surgeries and were long a big part of many veterinarians’ clientele, even if they didn’t have many dogs neutered.

      Though dogs have bred prolifically without human help since long before the rise of human civilization, canine obstetrics has become a lucrative branch of the veterinary industry, for example because dogs often need help to birth breeds with disproportionately large heads.

    • Darrin Stephens

      The ASPCA has no obligation to share safety issues about pit bulls with the public. On their “Pit Bull Information” web page, they write: “Sadly, pit bulls have acquired a reputation as unpredictable, dangerous, and vicious.” Yet, spelled out in the ASPCA Shelter Guidelines — designed to protect shelter workers — are the unique risks attributed to pit bulls. One of them is that they “attack without warning,” which is equivalent to unpredictable behavior.

      From the ASPCA’s The Care of Pit Bulls in the Shelter Environment:

      There are “cases of experienced handlers who had developed good relationships with the dogs over a period of months still being attacked without warning or obvious provocation.”

      Pit bulls “ignore signs of submission from other dogs” and “give no warning prior to attack.” They add that this is “different than normal dog behavior.”

      “Today’s pit bulls” have multiple names including: “Staffordshire Terrier (AKC 1936), American Staffordshire Terrier (AKC 1972, Am Staff), American Pit Bull Terrier or Pit Bull Terrier.”

      “These dogs can be aggressive towards humans and more likely to cause fatal attacks to people than other fighting type dogs.”

      “Pit bulls will climb fences, chew up stainless steel food and water bowls, destroy copper tubing of automatic water systems and conventional cages, and attack other animals through chain link fences.”

      “Pit bulls can break through conventional cage doors and destroy typical epoxy paint on the floors and walls.”

      “Pit bulls require special housing considerations” and “isolation from other animals if dog aggressive or have a high prey drive.”

      “Install a panic button in rooms housing pit bulls along with other restraint equipment in any room housing pit bulls.”

      It seems unlikely that the ASPCA or shelters participating in the “Adopt-A-Bull Contest” will tell potential adopters to install a panic button in their home or that pit bulls attack without warning.

    • Darrin Stephens

      Editorial feature: Horse doctoring & the ethical evolution of veterinarians

      http://www.animalpeoplenews.org

      The truth about The American Veterinary Medical Association’s position on pit bull sterilization and animal welfare issues.

      The AVMA position against legislation to mandate sterilization of pit bulls is subsumed within the assertion that, “Banning specific breeds to control dog bite injuries ignores the scope and nature of the problem and is unlikely to protect a community’s citizens.” This claim is, first of all, blatantly false.

      In truth, the few large U.S. cities which prohibit or restrict possession of pit bulls have had markedly fewer dog attack fatalities and disfigurements over the past 30 years than any others of comparable size. Also of note is that these cities––San Francisco, Denver, Miami, and New York City––impound and kill just a fraction as many pit bulls as those without breed-specific laws.

      Bluntly put, the AVMA appears to oppose breed-specific legislation by way of pandering to the same “fanciers” who popularized “cosmetic” surgeries and were long a big part of many veterinarians’ clientele, even if they didn’t have many dogs neutered.

      Though dogs have bred prolifically without human help since long before the rise of human civilization, canine obstetrics has become a lucrative branch of the veterinary industry, for example because dogs often need help to birth breeds with disproportionately large heads.

      http://www.animalpeoplenews.org/anp/2013/04/18/editorial-feature-horse-doctoring-the-ethical-evolution-of-veterinarians/

    • Darrin Stephens

      US NATIONAL LIBRARY OF MEDICINE NATIONAL INSTITUTES OF HEALTH

      Breed-Associated Behaviors

      “Setting aside the issue of anomalous behaviors, studies show that there are both behavior and personality traits associated with specific breeds (18, 53, 54, 132, 146).

      Simply put, border collies do not herd sheep because they are raised on sheep farms; rather, they are raised on sheep farms because they herd. In addition pointers point, retrievers retrieve, and mastiffs guard, all because those traits are part of their breed expectations, meaning strong and continuous selection in the underlying breeding program ”

      Simply put Pit bulls do not attack because they are raised with dog fighters and drug dealers, dog fighters and drug dealers use pit bulls because they attack!

      It is their nature, their genetic truth and reality.!!

      It is not how you raise them rather it is simply what they are.!!

      Just like sled dogs run and pull, it is just their nature.!!

      http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3322674/

  • bhowdershelt

    Tydings is INCORRECT with his statement that he doesn’t recall any animals attacking people since Ms. Sullivan was killed in an attack back in 2005. My dad was attacked in Sept 2007! http://fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2007/092007/09122007/316553
    Tydings needs to become a little more familiar with occurrences with in his county!! If a dog attacks it NEEDS to be put down, the one that attacked my dad had already attacked a girl prior to him and ended attacking a kid AFTER then finally the owner decided on his own to put the dog down….

  • bhowdershelt

    Tydings is INCORRECT with his statement that he didn’t recall an attack on a person since Ms. Sullivan died in 2005. My dad was attacked so badly he had to be hospitalized for 5 days in September 2007! Thank the lord the owner of the dog was home to pull the dog off before he become another statistic….
    http://fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2007/092007/09122007/316553

    He needs to become a little more familiar with happenings in his county! If a dog attacks, it NEEDS to be PUT DOWN! If it attacks once it WILL attack again as the dog that attacked my dad was on record in Spotsy for attacking a lady and attacked a kid AFTER his incident. Then, finally the owner decided to put the dog down….